Media thread 2022/23

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Historically in PL transfers, the highest fees on average should sit around 10% of the total league spend for the year. This rule has remained quite consistent throughout the PL era. It also gives a good indication as to what players from the past would’ve roughly cost today, and also how expensive a top player actually should be in the current market climate right now. For example, last year, the league spent around, a combined £860M, the top signings Nunez was £85M, so 10% of the total spend, and Anthony £90M just over 10%. Enzo Fernandez came in at about 12%.

To give you some context from the past, in 1993 Utd broke the British transfer record fee for Roy Keane at around £4M. The entire league spent just over £60M that year, so this deal was 8% of the total spend. It was a record at the time, but it wasn’t crazily over the mark.

In 1994 a year later, Utd broke the record transfer again for Andy Cole, this time for nearly double the amount of Keane, at around £7M. But the entire league spent more, and this one deal worked out at around 10% of the total leagues spend.

In 1995, Arsenal broke the record with the signing of Bergkamp for £7.5M, which was at 9% of the total. Liverpool then broke that record shortly after, with the signing of Collymore for 8.5M, which came in at 11% of the total.

In 1996, Newcastle bought Shearer for a British and world record fee of £16M. The league spend was around £100M in total, so this was a deal on the higher end, at about 16% of the total spend.

In 1997, Utd bought Henning Berg for 7.5M, which was nearly half the record price at the time, and it worked out at 5% of the total league spend. Chelsea and Aston Villa had the highest individual transfers of the season, with Greame Le Saux going to Chelsea, and Stan Collymore going to Aston Villa, both worked out at 10% of the total league spend.

In 1998 Utd signed Yorke for a fee of £18M, it was record money for the time, and it was around 9% of the total league spend.

In 2001 Utd got Veron for a record fee of £28M, it was a high price, and it was around 14% of the leagues spend at the time. In todays market, that works out at about £120M

In 2002, Utd broke the record fee again with Ferdinand for £30M. The spend was slightly lower this year for several reasons, but this figure equated to 25% of the leagues total spend, which is the highest ever %. It was a ridiculous figure at the time for any player, especially a CB. To put it in perspective, 25% today would cost you £215M. Ferdinand was a good player, but I don’t recall the media ridiculing Utd for over the top spending on this one. I checked out a few articles, and I was right, they didn’t, all they did was heap praise on him and analyse his potential. Which to be fair, is what they should do with every major signing for every club.

In 2003, they bought C.Ronaldo for £13M. We are told to marvel at the bargain price for the then 17 year old. But this was actually still 9% of the total spend that year. So it was still a high signing, today it would be £80M for a relatively unknown teenager from Portugal. Worked out well, but only a big budget team would be able to do that.

In 2004, they got Rooney for nearly double Ronaldo’s price at £30M, and that equated to double the spend %, coming in at 20% of the total league spend. Again, it’s at the very higher end of the scale, and suggest Utd could afford to pay double what they should to get him. In todays money, that would be £172M.

In 2006 they weren’t the top spenders, but they still bought Michael Carrick in at 10% of the total league spend.

In 2007 they bought 3 players, Nani, Anderson and Hargreaves’s for a combined 20% of the league total spend.

In 2008 we had our takeover, so I stopped looking at them at this point and instead looked at some of our own highest transfers to see how we faired with comparison to the league spend, this is what I saw:

Grealish - signed 2021 -14%
Dias - signed 2021 - 11%
Rodri - signed 2019 - 5%
Mahrez - signed 2018 - 11%.
KDB - signed 2015 - 10%
Sterling - signed 2015 - 9%
Aguero - signed 2011 - 9%
Dzeko - signed 2010 - 10%
Yaya - signed 2010 - 9%
David Silva - signed 2010 - 8%
Tevez - signed 2009 - 5%
Robinho - signed 2008 - 8%


Seems like we’re pretty good at getting players for fair market prices. I don’t really see anything in this that suggests we’ve done anything too differently from any other team in the past, especially Utd.
That is an amazing insight. Well done. Puts so much in perspective.
 
There's also the case of Peter Lorimer. Around 1960 Lorimer was due to sign for Leeds but the rags, with Busby's knowledge, offered his dad £5,000 to sign for them. Back then that was equivalent to about 10 years' average industrial wage. I believe he took it but young Lorimer himself wasn't happy, the money was returned and he signed for Leeds.
WOW not heard of that one before laser.
 
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I am peturbed by our players and the friendlyness shown to Spitty, I wish they'd blank him or call him a **** and to go fuck himself, what with his snide, illformed and factually incorrect statements, tweets and ghost written paper articles about City.
Understand your take on Wio & Spotty.
But, killing people with kindness is a more satisfactory way of gaining superiority.
Get them "onboard", so they have to continually eat shite. Both of them (plus Gary the Rat) are not clever enough to see the bigger picture and the longer outcome.
The GPC really angered a lot of the media and neutral fans by blanking Match of the Day for years. Micky P. was a lapdog and showed how shallow MUFC were.
Having Pep and City players playing "nice" with the media must be a massive ball-ache for the "Red-Top" pundits and media...
 
Just overheard some bloke on Talktripe ,sounded like JonathanRoss but don't think it was,( not my radio so stuck with it) comparing Pep the Great with Baconface, claiming that Bacon was a better manager as he discovered and brought kids through as if he had discovered them kicking a tin can about in the carpark.
Can't remember the exact details but I'm sure I heard they got them under dubious circumstances and the rules regarding signing up kids were changed as a results Obviously no mention of that.
Paul Ross aka BlueHammer85

:)

He's deliberately been trolling all week.

On his weds morning show he said only the rags treble is relevant in history and his rag sidekick agreed with him.

This morning he spent the first half hour of his show talking up Coventry's play off semi final game before a throwaway "Man City beat Real Madrid" line.
 
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Your right , a proper piss can. I use to drink in the same pub as him , always pissed. Says he's a Newcastle fan but was always licking rags arses .Never had a good word for City . Would see him a lot with Ladyman from The Mail. Ladyman called us stuffy cunts winning the 2012 title
Which pub is this, and do they still drink there ?
Asking for a friend :-D.
 
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