Media thread 2022/23

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its an interesting case study. Do you think that Klopp honestly believes what he says or is it a very cynical script that LFC are pushing using him as a willing mouthpiece. I tend towards the latter but it is possible if he believes what he is fed by his masters that it’s the former.

good article mate.
I'd go for neither as I think it's just Klopp being Klopp, he comes across as a nice reasonable guy but occasionally the mask slips and you can see the real Klopp bearing his teeth (literally). If it's ever discovered that Liverpool have a serial killer roaming the streets I'd seriously have a look at him for it.
 
This is the whole point. Managers are punished every week for saying less damaging things than Klopp. He absolutely should be charged by the PL with bringing the game into disrepute and I suspect that once the match is out of the way City will report him to the PL. Whatever Klopp's precise weasel words he has essentially accused City of breaching FFP (saying we have limitless finance) and publishing false accounts by suggesting we are state-owned.
This is much more serious than a moronic freelance hack making slurs on Twitter.
If we did report him it wouldn't just make.my day it would make my year. Obnoxious twat.
 
We are expected to believe that Sheikh Mansour, who has a purely ceremonial role as one of three deputy prime ministers in the UAE and no official executive powers, and is based in Abu Dhabi, should somehow control where people moor their superyachts in Dubai marina. Meanwhile there are no sanctions operating in Dubai and presumably rich Russians have moored their yachts there for decades so this would be irrelevant to any sanctions operating in the UK. And the whole story is based on an anonymous human rights worker in Ukraine.
So the Guardian have published it without any checks or balancing comments from any other parties. They have published it with no context or background and no comments to confirm if it is true or not. They are so desperate they have used the random angle that an unnamed person has "asked the PL" to investigate Sheikh Mansour. It is ridiculous, basically fake news. It is the sort of shite even the Daily Star would not publish.
Hoo fucking ray….a poster nails the lie that Mansour is somehow part of the government. I have gone on about this for years. Well done Mr Quiff.
 
Klopp may well think we are state owned but he didn't actually say that. It appears that the press have added some of their own comments, such as oil money and Haaland on £850,000 per week, to indicate what he may be thinking.

He actually finished up by saying "there are three clubs in world football who can do what they want financially. It's legal and everything is fine".

I really can't imagine the players or Pep give a minutes thought to what is in the press. We are not state owned but In my view even if we were, so what? Newcastle perhaps are. Good for them.
Ceferin always says “state owned, so what? They are subject to ffp like anybody else.”
 

This is excellent, as always. Regrettably, the WhatsApp Group won't even try to engage with the substantive points.

Their response today to Klopp's outright mendacity is manifestly coordinated. But gone are the days when they made even a cursory attempt at debating the issues, even if just to the extent of lying that City prevailed at the CAS only because certain charges against us were time-barred. No, now they just declaim that the truth of Klopp's comments is obvious, even though they actually stand up to no knowledgeable or logical scrutiny.

They're bankrupt when it comes both to ethics and to a capacity to carry out rational analysis. Organised and clear, as someone once commented.
 
Agreed. Legal action is a last resort and you should always go after the publishers. But there are other ways short of legal action. Formal complaints to the new regulator (IPSO) rarely result in tough action but they are disruptive to publishers. They get tied up for months in endless correspondence and have to justify what they have published so it does act as a deterrent to individual reporters. Getting lots of complaints can hamper career progression, especially over trivial mistakes. Execs hate having their time wasted. City have been seen as a soft touch in recent years but it will be interesting to see how the new regime (after the departure of Vicky Kloss) handles things.
The Grauniad, very tellingly, is not a member of either of the press bodies. Rather they have an exec who responds to such comments.
 
Still no mention of Greenwood, but Mendy does. Very similar charges too.
 

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