Media thread 2022/23

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petrusha said:
Sometimes I forget myself, though, and can mix up my forms or occasionally even use an Americanism. I remember a few years back on here when posting about the Adam Johnson trial and mentioning that he'd be "on the stand" later in the day. The poster Coleridge, whom I haven't seen on here for ages but would like to see return, quite rightly tore a strip off me for not referring to the witness box.
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’Taking the stand’ Is a truly wank expression.
 
dadnlad said:
leicester owners write off debt around 200 million i guess wont effect FFP as not in european competitions
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Shouldn't have an effect at all.
It will already be in the FFP calculations as owner investment.

All they've done is say "that 200m we loaned the club is now not a loan and thus non-repayable".
 
petrusha said:
He's also not very bright, although amazingly I've seen numerous claims to the contrary. I've never thought him in any way smart, but I've been living outside the UK ever since he started on talkSPORT so wondered if I might be missing something. To make that assessment, I've been monitoring for quite a while those clips that the station put out on social media to showcase what are presumably considered his more pertinent comments.

I'm glad to say I've been conclusively vindicated in my original view. His ability to construct any kind of reasoned argument is manifestly pitiable. However, even though being marginally more eloquent than the station's other pundits is really no kind of qualification, some people seem to regard him as well spoken, with an impressive vocabulary.

This notion is bollocks, as well, not least because when he tries to deploy what are big words by talkSPORT standards, he frequently misuses them. For instance, the last time I looked at one of those short videos of him making a point, he used 'patronage' as a verb. That's not indicative of someone who's articulate in any way (the word you were groping for ineffectually, Simon, was 'patronize', in the sense of being a regular customer). All this shows him up as someone who's trying desperately to look clever but is really an impostor, lacking any genuine intellectual prowess.

That's to say nothing of the fact that he's risibly proclaimed an expert in the off-field side of football when his credentials involve inept blundering to lead Crystal Palace into an insolvency event. Only in the British sports media could a demonstrable clown and weapons-grade **** like this be held up as a paragon of informed intelligence.
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Very well put dissection of Mr Jordan.

But I must say that last sentence was tremendous!
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Hate the creeping Americanisation of our language - as one or two posters might have noticed!
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I have a reputation in our office for going mad about the influx of Americanisations, even though the truth is it's been going on all my life.

It's like holding back the tide. The battle is already lost with "I'm good thanks", "awesome/amazing", starting sentences with so etc. But these days people are just blatantly betraying their own culture and language and saying that things "suck" or that they are "pissed" or ending statements with "period".
 
petrusha said:
I tend to agree with you, and wouldn't limit it only to the language. It irritates me greatly, for instance, that we now need to have Proms in Britain when our kids leave school or we have Black Friday sales, in both cases just because Americans have them. I generally write in British English in my job unless we'd specifically addressing an American client. but the -ize suffix dates back in British English to the 15th century and was used by Shakespeare so I have a fairly clear conscience with that particular point even though I mostly use -ise in personal writing.

Sometimes I forget myself, though, and can mix up my forms or occasionally even use an Americanism. I remember a few years back on here when posting about the Adam Johnson trial and mentioning that he'd be "on the stand" later in the day. The poster Coleridge, whom I haven't seen on here for ages but would like to see return, quite rightly tore a strip off me for not referring to the witness box.
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The worst one for me is the change I’ve seen from a kid when Halloween was literally nothing, just telling a few ghost stories. Bonfire Night or Guy Fawkes night was much the bigger of the two “celebrations“. Baked potatoes in the bonfire and black peas with plenty of vinegar, with a toffee apple. Now everyone dresses up their Kids and come round asking for “candy” on Halloween. Fireworks night as it’s now known is an opportunity for people who’ve never heard of Guy Fawkes to frighten a few elderly pets to death.

And another thing. Nostalgia was better back then too.
 
BringBackSwales said:
I think given how much we have been vilified for what we (Arab owned City) have spent, and given we are about 13th in the last 5 years net spend premier league, we have every right to discuss why US owned chelsea have not had anything like the same degree of scrutiny or criticism
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Americans are very, very, very adept at media manipulation. They love the dark arts. Our owners probably believe the bullshit about the UK's free press and I'd imagine genuinely believe the BBC is 'impartial'.
 
Didsbury Dave and Bamber Bridge Blue have just echoed my sentiments entirely. When we were kids, you used to spend all your school half term collecting wood and raiding other people's "bommies".... Treacle toffee, black peas and parkin were the order of the day, Now you get grown fucktard adults having Halloween parties and dressing up as vampires and ghouls. Bonfire night is the English tradition.

With regard to "period" - don't get me started. Any self respecting British person who uses that just needs ceremonially burning on the spot
 
Didsbury Dave said:
I have a reputation in our office for going mad about the influx of Americanisations, even though the truth is it's been going on all my life.

It's like holding back the tide. The battle is already lost with "I'm good thanks", "awesome/amazing", starting sentences with so etc. But these days people are just blatantly betraying their own culture and language and saying that things "suck" or that they are "pissed" or ending statements with "period".
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And don’t get me started on license!
 
KPXBLN said:
no idea. but I don't know why they could - if Chelsea want to lock themselves into a longer period of paying a player's wages, isn't that their look out?
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Not if it's only been done to reduce amortisation charges that are a key part of the new FFS, and not for any valid commercial reason. Let's be honest. It's an FFS fix and everyone knows it.
 
donkinho said:
Didsbury Dave and Bamber Bridge Blue have just echoed my sentiments entirely. When we were kids, you used to spend all your school half term collecting wood and raiding other people's "bommies".... Treacle toffee, black peas and parkin were the order of the day, Now you get grown fucktard adults having Halloween parties and dressing up as vampires and ghouls. Bonfire night is the English tradition.

With regard to "period" - don't get me started. Any self respecting British person who uses that just needs ceremonially burning on the spot
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i was just about to post something similar. The demise of the great British bommy is a sad loss to the culture. It was the most exciting month of the year, up there with Christmas and summer holidays.
 
petrusha said:
Re Simon Jordan.....
He's also not very bright, although amazingly I've seen numerous claims to the contrary. I've never thought him in any way smart, but I've been living outside the UK ever since he started on talkSPORT so wondered if I might be missing something............................................ That's to say nothing of the fact that he's risibly proclaimed an expert in the off-field side of football when his credentials involve inept blundering to lead Crystal Palace into an insolvency event. Only in the British sports media could a demonstrable clown and weapons-grade **** like this be held up as a paragon of informed intelligence.
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He's by far the brightest star in the Talksport galaxy, so much so that he occasionally overshadows his co-presenters - indeed, he has been known to totally eclipse the likes of Jim White,Jamie O'Hara and even Gabby Agbonlahor.
 
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petrusha said:
He's also not very bright, although amazingly I've seen numerous claims to the contrary. I've never thought him in any way smart, but I've been living outside the UK ever since he started on talkSPORT so wondered if I might be missing something. To make that assessment, I've been monitoring for quite a while those clips that the station put out on social media to showcase what are presumably considered his more pertinent comments.

I'm glad to say I've been conclusively vindicated in my original view. His ability to construct any kind of reasoned argument is manifestly pitiable. However, even though being marginally more eloquent than the station's other pundits is really no kind of qualification, some people seem to regard him as well spoken, with an impressive vocabulary.

This notion is bollocks, as well, not least because when he tries to deploy what are big words by talkSPORT standards, he frequently misuses them. For instance, the last time I looked at one of those short videos of him making a point, he used 'patronage' as a verb. That's not indicative of someone who's articulate in any way (the word you were groping for ineffectually, Simon, was 'patronize', in the sense of being a regular customer). All this shows him up as someone who's trying desperately to look clever but is really an impostor, lacking any genuine intellectual prowess.

That's to say nothing of the fact that he's risibly proclaimed an expert in the off-field side of football when his credentials involve inept blundering to lead Crystal Palace into an insolvency event. Only in the British sports media could a demonstrable clown and weapons-grade **** like this be held up as a paragon of informed intelligence.
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Good post. It's nice to have hard evidence that Jordan isn't all he's cracked up to be.

Incidentally, are you using 'bollocks' as a verb or a noun?
 
Didsbury Dave said:
i was just about to post something similar. The demise of the great British bommy is a sad loss to the culture. It was the most exciting month of the year, up there with Christmas and summer holidays.
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Can't have a good old fashioned bommy these days without having to write a 74 page risk assessment/environmental impact statement.

Sad times.
 
malg said:
What do you mean 'in what way'? It's obvious. We're the only team that spends money. We've spent £8bn on transfers since the takeover and I'm sure that's what will drive the narrative.

So, again, opposition fans will be pissing themselves.
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KPXBLN said:
To be fair the amortisation isn't 'fiddled' - they spread the cost of transfer fees over a longer period of time because they've signed their players to longer contracts, eight and a half years in the case of Mudryk apparently. That's to their advantage in that they spread the 100 million or whatever over 8 years instead of 5, but the downside for them is that if the player is a flop they have to keep paying him 200 grand a week or whatever for 3 years longer than would be normal. So there are downsides as well as upsides to their approach, and they're probably quite fucked if they don't qualify for the Champions League as Swiss Ramble explained recently.
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Yep, I agree, but I can't recall any player getting more than a 6 year contract before. UEFA are closing that particular goal but they should have preempted this and only allow the 5 year amortisation they are bringing in. All the big wigs who have continuously tried to shaft us have failed with this one but Chelsea could hugely regret this policy.
 
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