Media thread 2022/23

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domalino said:
It's worth a read. People on here are being hypersensitive, it's not really about City, it's not demanding change or presenting just 1 point of view, it's just about remembering the history behind the symbols we use.
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I am not saying that City owners are perfect. I am not saying that questions can’t be asked about aspects of our ownership.

But there has been an unrelenting attempt in the media to smear the club and this has culminated in the hypocrisy of us being taken to court. And the Guardian has been part of this. A Manchester paper!!

I can only speak for myself and say yes I am sensitive. Doesn’t mean the article is wrong but it’s written for an organisation that is trying to damage us. So they don’t get the benefit of the doubt.
 
Serious question why is there so much hatred for us in general? Media especially... Look at the good our owners have done. Transformed east Manchester, tranformed our club and actually care about our club... Our club does plenty in the community, play the best football England has ever seen.... I could go on and on about the good points. Yet we are lambasted consistently in the media and by majority of other fans it's actually sad to see
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
I'm happy that the ship represents the ships that brought my family from Ireland to Manchester in the 1840s. They lived in a basement hovel around sudehill and were employed in the textile industry in conditions that would now be called slavery.
Despite this i can cope with the club badge as is, and even the rag one with its depiction of Beelzebub. Good luck to the guardian with their book burning crusade.
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That's great, but I'm sure you could also imagine some people like the guy mentioned in the article whose letter promted it, or the people who raised it 30 years ago might feel different, and their opinion would be just as valid as yours which is why it's interesting to read these different points of view collected in an article.

These articles are also worth having because they teach us about our history, we've got loads of people going off about how the ship is to do with the canal (which is what I thought as well), but that's obviously not true when it predates the canal by 50 years.

No one's burning any books, no one's demanding any changes, no one is suggesting we get ladders and a chisel and go around chipping the ship off every building, no one is going after the club.
 
MillionMilesAway said:
The Ederson piece is a misleading headline, but the piece is in the name of Karen Bardsley, and it largely defends Ederson and explains that the bare stats don't tell the whole story.
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But it has the line that 'some City fans think Ederson is the weak link "
Every Blue I have met has sung his praises. Shite article.
 
It's clearly not an anti-City article and it was an interesting read but I thought the links to the ships on our's and United's crest were a bit tenuous. The 3 things Hattenstone targets - the Mcr coat of arms, the establishment of City, and the establishment of United (and the subsequent incorporation of a ship into the club crests) all long post-date the abolition of slavery.

Don't get me wrong - I'm not saying I'd be particularly arsed if we swapped the ship for a bee, but this smacks of a bit of pontificating from The Guardian as they appear to currently be undergoing a process of self flaggelation about their own links to slavery.

As for Hattenstone, I'll never forget that prick in 2006 saying he didn't really consider himself a City fan anymore because Ben Thatcher elbowed Pedro Mendes yet here he is nearly 20 years later still supporting us!
 
Mancini’s Pastilles said:
Serious question why is there so much hatred for us in general? Media especially... Look at the good our owners have done. Transformed east Manchester, tranformed our club and actually care about our club... Our club does plenty in the community, play the best football England has ever seen.... I could go on and on about the good points. Yet we are lambasted consistently in the media and by majority of other fans it's actually sad to see
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Jealousy,bitterness,and the fact we kicked their back doors in when uninvited! pmsl
 
bakerdave76 said:
www.theguardian.com

Abandon ship: does this symbol of slavery shame Manchester and its football clubs?

A three-masted vessel adorns the city’s buildings and both teams’ crests. But is it an emblem of a crime against humanity?
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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I enjoyed reading that tbf, I thought (although as somebody mentioned, you can take most things and lead it in the direction of slavery etc) it was a good article.

The below sums it up for me (from the article)

:-Manchester city council’s deputy leader, Luthfur Rahman, says: “Manchester’s past is a complex mix of stories, lives and voices, and we’re in the middle of a long-term project that began in 2020 to highlight and reflect on aspects of the city’s past, including the city’s black history and connections to the slave trade. Working alongside Manchester Histories, our universities and other partners, including local communities, our focus is on education and learning, rather than eradication of the city’s past.”

I’m proud of my Mancunian heritage, it’s often said I seem far more passionate about that than I am about being English (they’re correct), we were at the forefront of the abolishment over here, which to me was an amazing act of solidarity, but I’d rather the whole story be told rather than try and hide the bits we’re not keen on (so fuckin scouse that).
 
iwasthere1968 said:
It's our badge , so f#£%^ off!
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x 1000. I do not think and have never thought, that the ship on our badge was anything to do with anything other than the fact that the ship canal was built around that time. As far as I am concerned that remains the same. JMHO

EDIT: I don't want the bee to represent us thank you. That is a personal prejudice I admit because I have an aversion to bees!! :-)
 
Maly said:
If he thinks that’s bad, he should Google ‘Stockport Golf Club Badge’ then click images

Must be the most racist club badge in the world. Gobsmacked they’ve not been made to change it
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Top quality golf course though
 
nmc said:
I’d suggest giving the Fail a miss - it will improve the quality of your life….
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Don't read it anymore. I realised that every article in that paper whatever the subject, is written so that it triggers the reader. It's no wonder there are so many hateful people out there.
 
JASR said:
Immaculate timing release of an interesting piece , but loaded with negatives, as ever…

Also, he touches on Plymouth also having a ship on their badge ‘celebrating’ the Mayflower and pilgrims, but entirely misses pointing out the issue of commemorating the radical religious intolerants it was carrying to find a new home where they could impose their draconian religious way of living, without ‘interference’.
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Fucking Guardian. Seriously? They should busy themselves buying some more open-toed sandals they can wear with their socks.
 
Revolver said:
I am not saying that City owners are perfect. I am not saying that questions can’t be asked about aspects of our ownership.

But there has been an unrelenting attempt in the media to smear the club and this has culminated in the hypocrisy of us being taken to court. And the Guardian has been part of this. A Manchester paper!!

I can only speak for myself and say yes I am sensitive. Doesn’t mean the article is wrong but it’s written for an organisation that is trying to damage us. So they don’t get the benefit of the doubt.
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This is basically my view, i am always suspicious of seemingly objective pieces from an organisation that has been part of an orchestrated smear campaign against our club for many years.

fuck em. The ship stays!
 
what do you expect from that communist anti british rag known as the guardian, socialist worker party comic journalist wrings hands over alleged offence shock horror, as predictable as ever these clowns
 
The perfect fumble said:
I saw that.

It's something along the lines of....

"Dear readers,

Yes Man City have a three goal lead going to Munich, but there's still hope that the sports washing cheating bastards will get thumped by plucky underdogs Workers Collective Bayern FC. And why? Coz here are some random examples from the past when similar healthy leads were overturned! So be of good cheer! There's still a chance they'll get fucked over and football will be saved".
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Why did I read that in a Peter griffin voice?
 
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