Messi vs Kinkladze

GX Blue said:
Christ on a bike!!!

Messi V Kinkladze.... Bluemoon hits a new low.

Gio was good. Messi is the best player of all time.

There isn’t a single aspect of Kinkys game that even equals Messi's. Even dribbling.
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It's all rather embarrassing really. The rest of the world will be pissing themselves watching that video.
 
I have never heard of Messi but I have heard of Kinkladze so he gets my vote every time.
 
Fantastic player and a fantastic servant to the football club aswell. Your correct we will never be able to see if a player like a Messi or even a Silva, Kompany, Balotelli, Tevez, Aguero etc could handle it in the npower championship as they would be out of the club in a shot and that is the reason I will always respect the man.

No you cannot compare the two but Kinkladze was a fantastic player in his own right and regardless of his time at Derby or Ajax during the 1996 season he was as good as any player in the league including the Bergkamps of this world.

Unfortunately for City and Kinkladze our paths crossed at the wrong time. Still an absolute legend and still my all time favourite City player.
 
GX Blue said:
Christ on a bike!!!

Messi V Kinkladze.... Bluemoon hits a new low.

Gio was good. Messi is the best player of all time.

There isn’t a single aspect of Kinkys game that even equals Messi's. Even dribbling.
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Gio was the only thing as City fans we had to hold on to at the time. That's the only excuse for this rubbish.
 
Marvin said:
GX Blue said:
Christ on a bike!!!

Messi V Kinkladze.... Bluemoon hits a new low.

Gio was good. Messi is the best player of all time.

There isn’t a single aspect of Kinkys game that even equals Messi's. Even dribbling.
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Gio was the only thing as City fans we had to hold on to at the time. That's the only excuse for this rubbish.
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What rubbish? Some guy, possiblty unconnected with Bluemoon, posts a video called Messi v Kinkladze and with the exception of one person everyone states Messi was better but Kinkladze was a great talent.

According to you he was useless the majority of the time. Seems a balanced view of a player who was player of the season two years out three.
 
I wonder how good Kinkladze could have been today if he was brought up in a top training system like Dortmund, Barcelona, or Ajax's, with his endless natural ability.
 
Stood in The South Stand said:
kismet said:
I liked Kinky but he wouldn't get into the greatest 50 City players ever!!!!!
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I beg to differ.
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Me too. Would definitely be in the top 50 and well up there.

There was a previous thread about the most exciting City player ever and, if I recall correctly, he got top one or two mentions.
 
For a couple of years with us gio was one of the best players in the world with the ball at his feet. Whilst messi of course is a better all round player, gio had that ability to run at people and past them with the ball appearing to be stuck to his feet. It's a rare skill, you dont see these players very often. Maradona had it, Messi's got it and for a very short period a shit team with a shit manager and a shit chairman got lucky. Silva is the nearest thing we've got now: a playmaker who makes goals out of nothing. Bit silva can't go past people like gio did.

The problem for gio was injury. He got a knock or two in his last season with us and then another more serious one early in his career at Ajax I think. He also put weight on and he suddenly lost the burst of pace which took him past people. This rendered him a shadow of his former self as he'd lost his biggest asset.

But don't let the revisionists on this thread kid you: for a while he was absolutely mesmerising and the talk of football. I've never seen a better player at going past people as if they weren't there. At that part of the game at least, for two years, he was as good as messi is now.
 
In all honesty comparing Kinkladze to Messi is like comparing Desert Orchid to Dobin the pantomime horse.

That isn't to say that Kinkladze wasn't a fantastic player for us, it's just that Messi is probably the best player the world has ever seen.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
For a couple of years with us gio was one of the best players in the world with the ball at his feet. Whilst messi of course is a better all round player, gio had that ability to run at people and past them with the ball appearing to be stuck to his feet. It's a rare skill, you dont see these players very often. Maradona had it, Messi's got it and for a very short period a shit team with a shit manager and a shit chairman got lucky. Silva is the nearest thing we've got now: a playmaker who makes goals out of nothing. Bit silva can't go past people like gio did.

The problem for gio was injury. He got a knock or two in his last season with us and then another more serious one early in his career at Ajax I think. He also put weight on and he suddenly lost the burst of pace which took him past people. This rendered him a shadow of his former self as he'd lost his biggest asset.

But don't let the revisionists on this thread kid you: for a while he was absolutely mesmerising and the talk of football. I've never seen a better player at going past people as if they weren't there. At that part of the game at least, for two years, he was as good as messi is now.
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Wasn't it Franny Lee who discovered Kinkladze?

The other limitation he had as a player was he was born lazy. He was brilliant with the ball at his feet running at defenders, but his overall game wasn't as good as that of Silva or Tevez.
I wonder how well Gio would do in the modern game where the fitness levels are so much higher and the game is played at a faster pace. I think he would struggle to hold a place in our current team.
 
normski6071 said:
as i rememeber he only ever turned it on when we were on tv
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Bollocks. City 6-0 Swindon wasn't on telly and he ran the show.

Eddie Mcgoldrick was on fire that game too IIRC.


Never seen Messi in the flesh so Gio gets my vote.
 
Didsbury Dave said:
For a couple of years with us gio was one of the best players in the world with the ball at his feet. Whilst messi of course is a better all round player, gio had that ability to run at people and past them with the ball appearing to be stuck to his feet. It's a rare skill, you dont see these players very often. Maradona had it, Messi's got it and for a very short period a shit team with a shit manager and a shit chairman got lucky. Silva is the nearest thing we've got now: a playmaker who makes goals out of nothing. Bit silva can't go past people like gio did.

The problem for gio was injury. He got a knock or two in his last season with us and then another more serious one early in his career at Ajax I think. He also put weight on and he suddenly lost the burst of pace which took him past people. This rendered him a shadow of his former self as he'd lost his biggest asset.

But don't let the revisionists on this thread kid you: for a while he was absolutely mesmerising and the talk of football. I've never seen a better player at going past people as if they weren't there. At that part of the game at least, for two years, he was as good as messi is now.
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Is this your new collective term for people you don't agree with DD? ;-)
 
He will always be one of my top five ever to wear the shirt. I'm too young to remember Bell, Summerbee etc, too old (it seems) to get the hype of Ballotelli and most of my trips following City around before marriage/kids came along were during our lower league days. Gio was an absolute god send back then and lit up some dismal times. He was a legend to me then and he still is today. F**king love the little sparrowhawk. I appreciated Ali B, thought Haaland was quality, Horlock, Bishop, Sinclair, Dickov, the Goat et al, and I'm loving that Aguero and Silva are doing it for us now but "Kinky", well he was different gravy.
 
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