Metrolink to / from Etihad

[Vic]

No problem, when I see him next I will bring it up, but i will say he has nothing to gain by making stuff up. He's very high up in the council and it's his department that would be heavily involved in such a scheme and he's a genuine guy.

Then he must have an estimate of the cost... and whether he can guarantee that any train company (or GBR) would run trains to a new station. Several new stations have been built then the operators decide not to stop trains there, or not as many as promised, notably Reston in Scotland and closer to home Warrington West. And that's on lines with trains passing through, not a line that would need its own special services.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

What happens to traffic when you close already completely congested roads?

There is no quick and easy solution to a complex problem.

There is no need for general traffic in the Pollard Street area. It should be buses, taxis, and trams only. Virtually all major stadiums I have been to here and abroad don’t allow traffic on the immediately adjacent roads before and after matches. I can’t think of anywhere worse than our place other than Anfield which is also a total shit show.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

There is no need for general traffic in the Pollard Street area. It should be buses, taxis, and trams only. Virtually all major stadiums I have been to here and abroad don’t allow traffic on the immediately adjacent roads before and after matches. I can’t think of anywhere worse than our place other than Anfield which is also a total shit show.

That doesn’t answer the problem. Traffic does use those streets, and it gets extremely busy. Closing them would cause even more chaos. Just look at the controversy over low traffic neighbourhoods where side streets are blocked off during rush hour. All those cars have to go somewhere.

The problem is the Etihad is so close to a busy city centre that has rapidly expanded in recent years.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

During covid a lot of them retrained......
And became covid experts .........
they then undertook training in the roles you mention. :-)

When they’re not moonlighting as Middle Eastern political scientists or army generals of course.

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

That doesn’t answer the problem. Traffic does use those streets, and it gets extremely busy. Closing them would cause even more chaos. Just look at the controversy over low traffic neighbourhoods where side streets are blocked off during rush hour. All those cars have to go somewhere.

The problem is the Etihad is so close to a busy city centre that has rapidly expanded in recent years.

We will have to disagree. The situation at our place is a disgrace. Much worse than Old Trafford. Lots of places are close to housing. All the major London stadia are better. The transport report for the new arena was a laughable document. There will be a fatality soon at City, either by crushing or an accident, and the authorities will start wringing their hands.

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

We will have to disagree. The situation at our place is a disgrace. Much worse than Old Trafford. Lots of places are close to housing. All the major London stadia are better. The transport report for the new arena was a laughable document. There will be a fatality soon at City, either by crushing or an accident, and the authorities will start wringing their hands.

There’s nothing to “disagree” about. The transport situation is objectively not good enough. That’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a fact.

My point is an obvious one; by closing already congested roads you will cause chaos on the surrounding road network. That’s just physics. Those cars have to go somewhere.

I do not have an answer, because I a not a town planner and there is no easy quick cheap solution, despite what all the geniuses on here would like to think.

 

[mancityvstoke]

What happens to traffic when you close already completely congested roads?

There is no quick and easy solution to a complex problem.

They start beeping their horns like crazy?

 

[Johnny Mars Bar]

They start beeping their horns like crazy?

Never fails to magically hurry things along!

 

[bobbyowenquiff]

There’s nothing to “disagree” about. The transport situation is objectively not good enough. That’s not a matter of opinion, it’s a fact.

My point is an obvious one; by closing already congested roads you will cause chaos on the surrounding road network. That’s just physics. Those cars have to go somewhere.

I do not have an answer, because I a not a town planner and there is no easy quick cheap solution, despite what all the geniuses on here would like to think.

A lot of European stadia do pretty well with simple things like large taxi ranks, park and rides, and shuttle buses. It would be a start. There just seems to be total lethargy about infrastructure in general. They made a big noise about improving the signage on the walking route but we have been in this stadium for more than 20 years now. I did dig out the transport documents (at the time) for the new arena plans. It was a truly pathetic report. Essentially "do nothing." I think this shows contempt for the paying customers for music events and football.

 

[mancityvstoke]

A lot of European stadia do pretty well with simple things like large taxi ranks, park and rides, and shuttle buses. It would be a start. There just seems to be total lethargy about infrastructure in general. They made a big noise about improving the signage on the walking route but we have been in this stadium for more than 20 years now. I did dig out the transport documents (at the time) for the new arena plans. It was a truly pathetic report. Essentially "do nothing." I think this shows contempt for the paying customers for music events and football.

There are tram park and rides.............not big enough and the trams are shyte.

Buses non existent. They can't even get the basics right.


Dont get me started on parking restrictions and how I now get a text from the club telling me when sales for car parking take place. Never used to get them.