Metropolitan Police given permission to buy water cannon

tidyman said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
A civilized society should also tolerate peaceful protest, and personally I wouldn't trust a trigger happy and corrupt Met with a spud gun, let alone a water cannon.
I'm only surprised that they haven't asked for plastic bullets, although I don't suppose they really need them, given the damage they do already with real ones without facing any repercussions.
I fully accept that NF. Peaceful protest is a civil right imo. The two propositions shouldn't be mutually exclusive, however.

As long as this device is only ever deployed in the most extreme of circumstances, or preferably, never, then I am entirely comfortable with its existence.

How many situations can you recall off the top of your head in the last, 30 years say, in this country, where you think water cannons would have been an acceptable way of dealing with a situation?

Possibly in Croydon during the civil unrest a couple of years ago. It may act as a deterrent in certain circumstances. I take your point about its (hopefully) limited use, though.
 
Loukas said:
The thing that annoys me most about this is that we're buying them from Germany. Can't we just pay the extra money and get a factory in some deprived area of the country to build them - creating more jobs and helping OUR economy?



ohhhhh....its funnier than that.

The water cannon cost £30k each.....then we have to pay to have then transported here and modified (so that they can be filled they say..but do you believe them)......total cost of £140k

Whereas we could have built them in the UK for half that price......Lions governed by fu*kin muppets

Time for change methinks
 
Southbanken said:
Mike D said:
dazdon said:
We might not be a police state in the real sense at the minute but by jove it's not for the lack of effort ;-)

Boris Johnson has agreed to be blasted by water cannon to prove that they are safe enough to be used on the streets of London, after the Mayor challenged Theresa May’s authority by ordering three without Home Office approval.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...ersial-riot-equipment-for-london-9527093.html

With trust between police and public at an all time low right now it just goes to show the disdain that this government has for the people it's suppoed to serve.

No it doesn't - your own post states that this Government has not approved the purchase of these items. This is the Mayor of London acting WITHOUT Government approval.

Don't let the facts get in the way of your agenda though.



Whats actually scary is that you seem to believe that

Quote....No it doesn't - your own post states that this Government has not approved the purchase of these items. This is the Mayor of London acting WITHOUT Government approval ....quote

which will obviously not be the case......and I'll bet that Boris gets subjected to the jet of water BEFORE the planned modifications are done
 
nijinsky's fetlocks said:
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Having the tools to maintain social order is a necessary evil in a civilised society, I'm afraid.

A civilized society should also tolerate peaceful protest, and personally I wouldn't trust a trigger happy and corrupt Met with a spud gun, let alone a water cannon.
I'm only surprised that they haven't asked for plastic bullets, although I don't suppose they really need them, given the damage they do already with real ones without facing any repercussions.

Plastic bullets have already been fired on the mainland. The Toxteth riots in 1981 if memory serves.

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TheMightyQuinn said:
So, the government and pigs have bought water cannons to use on the people they're supposed to 'serve'?

Scum.
Sort of right.

They bought them to use on scum.

You know the sort.
 
TheMightyQuinn said:
Isn't their a 'water shortage' every summer in the UK?

Or won't it count if the water's being used by pigs and Eton nonces against women and children?
You've become a parody of hyperbole.
 
SWP's back said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
So, the government and pigs have bought water cannons to use on the people they're supposed to 'serve'?

Scum.
Sort of right.

They bought them to use on scum.

You know the sort.
Yeah, thank fuck successive British governments haven't attacked free speech, freedom of assembly, right to protest and invaded privacy.
 
Skashion said:
SWP's back said:
TheMightyQuinn said:
So, the government and pigs have bought water cannons to use on the people they're supposed to 'serve'?

Scum.
Sort of right.

They bought them to use on scum.

You know the sort.
Yeah, thank fuck successive British governments haven't attacked free speech, freedom of assembly, right to protest and invaded privacy.

They are for use on scum.

Good for Boris.
 

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