Micah Richards

[Mr HJ]

must watch a different game - zabaleta must stop every attempted cross from the opposition - i will be watching carefully , even though i dont need to .
In the 2nd half , in an attacking sense zab wouldn't have done any better or created anymore than what Micah did .

It would also compromise zabs game with MD playing on the inside of him.micahs not played many games and still finding his feet so to speak under the new manager coz of injury, ideally vinnie would have played alongside him.

I think also when Micah has played the manager has probably made too many changes, subtle changes more often throughout the season would have seen more players in form and not out of touch, not playing for 20 games then playing one isnt going to help, iv said it through out the season, if we get a couple of injuries to key players in the remainder of the season were fucked- manage players better and pick them for the correct games - one or two changes max , in the right games won't affect the way we play so much .

Your statement above in bold...no of course not, but it's the type of cross that you allow to get in. Against Wigan, there was no trickery, no faint, he didn't even have to try hard to get the ball in, just a standard, low ball across the box and I guarantee you that Zabs would have been closer and blocked that cross. As I said earlier he takes up the wrong positions, gets caught ball watching and I continually get frustrated by his inability to get back.

Nothing would please me more than to see him re-discover his form from a few seasons back but maybe, just maybe this team has gone on another level since then.

He is simply not reliable currently and to my mind that one moment shortly after half time ultimately cost us against Wigan and we can't afford slip ups from here on in from a player who doesn't always appear to be fully concentrated and switched on.

So the cross that got in cost us the game??
What a load !!

The cross went behind him, other defenders maybe could have dealt with it?
Pants maybe could do better ??
Clichy should defo do better??

Do you not think the the first goal is more avoidable ?
The blame for the first goal lies with one player only ,again, Michael De ma fucking chellis. - only him ,nobody else but you choose to pick the second goal out because you can arguably put the blame on the player you want "out".

Watch the 2nd goal again
Pathetic attempt by yaya to win the ball
MD lets him run right past him
The cross is passed behind Micah- how do you stop those , leave a trailing leg ??
No other players along the 6 yard box to clear
Pants maybe does better
Clichy didnt attack the ball to clear

I do think clichy was slightly impeded though .

Sorry I think you are not considering the fact fullback is one of the hardest positions to play in the modern game. They are asked to defend, supplement the attack, cross with accuracy, track back and also distribute to feet when pressed. Micha God bless him can only do a part of this, not his fault but that is a fact. I compare to last season and the first few games of this when opposing managers targeted Kolarov as he too loved to bomb forward and was usually the last man back when defending. He looked as though he didn't think that was his job - he was probably thinking my job is to put in telling crosses and that's that. Under MP he had changed and looks a much better fullback - he is certainly not my favourite but hats off to him he had adapted and teams target that side less. Now Richards at right full back - the difference with Zab is that teams know that they get less opportunities - partly reputation, partly being a solid defender first. He is a proper fullback. During the games Micha has played he has not shown any progress - I don't buy into the 'He hasn't played enough' or 'too many changes' theories. He is a professional doing his job day after day and should understand exactly what his role is no matter who is in the team. I do agree that he doesn't work well with Navas, primarily because he rarely understands that when he blindly bombs forward he is negating the space that Navas wishes to use. Concerning the cutting out of crosses, his body position is all wrong. The winger on sunday for example just looked up and with Micha about a metre away had time to put in a dangerous ball. Yes you could say Clichy got on the wrong side or Pants should have cut it out, but it should not be that easy to play a telling ball into our box. It sounds as though I am crucifying the lad but the fact is we have changed as a club and the ball is firmly in his court to work at his art and frankly improve. His fitness is another matter altogether. I have borne in mind that to find English players to be in our squad is tough but I believe the way to progress is to have young players brought up on the very technical aspect of playing fullback, so we as fans may have to be patient.

 

[shemnel]

Im a left back and I can concur fully with this. it's become very very hard to be considered a 'good' full back now due to the increased workload and diversity of requirements. You used to be able to cover your own half (and a little more), be better at passing than centre halves and defend and be called decent but now if you dont supplement it with bombing on, crossing, constant pressing, the odd goal and a passing game akin to accomplished midfielders, you get labelled shit.

it's damn hard at full back. cut the guys some slack.

Though i agree Richards is not what he used to be and he still wouldnt be good enough to play Pellegrini's system even at his best, in my opinion

 

[skybluepete]

Your statement above in bold...no of course not, but it's the type of cross that you allow to get in. Against Wigan, there was no trickery, no faint, he didn't even have to try hard to get the ball in, just a standard, low ball across the box and I guarantee you that Zabs would have been closer and blocked that cross. As I said earlier he takes up the wrong positions, gets caught ball watching and I continually get frustrated by his inability to get back.

Nothing would please me more than to see him re-discover his form from a few seasons back but maybe, just maybe this team has gone on another level since then.

He is simply not reliable currently and to my mind that one moment shortly after half time ultimately cost us against Wigan and we can't afford slip ups from here on in from a player who doesn't always appear to be fully concentrated and switched on.

So the cross that got in cost us the game??
What a load !!

The cross went behind him, other defenders maybe could have dealt with it?
Pants maybe could do better ??
Clichy should defo do better??

Do you not think the the first goal is more avoidable ?
The blame for the first goal lies with one player only ,again, Michael De ma fucking chellis. - only him ,nobody else but you choose to pick the second goal out because you can arguably put the blame on the player you want "out".

Watch the 2nd goal again
Pathetic attempt by yaya to win the ball
MD lets him run right past him
The cross is passed behind Micah- how do you stop those , leave a trailing leg ??
No other players along the 6 yard box to clear
Pants maybe does better
Clichy didnt attack the ball to clear

I do think clichy was slightly impeded though .

Sorry I think you are not considering the fact fullback is one of the hardest positions to play in the modern game. They are asked to defend, supplement the attack, cross with accuracy, track back and also distribute to feet when pressed. Micha God bless him can only do a part of this, not his fault but that is a fact. I compare to last season and the first few games of this when opposing managers targeted Kolarov as he too loved to bomb forward and was usually the last man back when defending. He looked as though he didn't think that was his job - he was probably thinking my job is to put in telling crosses and that's that. Under MP he had changed and looks a much better fullback - he is certainly not my favourite but hats off to him he had adapted and teams target that side less. Now Richards at right full back - the difference with Zab is that teams know that they get less opportunities - partly reputation, partly being a solid defender first. He is a proper fullback. During the games Micha has played he has not shown any progress - I don't buy into the 'He hasn't played enough' or 'too many changes' theories. He is a professional doing his job day after day and should understand exactly what his role is no matter who is in the team. I do agree that he doesn't work well with Navas, primarily because he rarely understands that when he blindly bombs forward he is negating the space that Navas wishes to use. Concerning the cutting out of crosses, his body position is all wrong. The winger on sunday for example just looked up and with Micha about a metre away had time to put in a dangerous ball. Yes you could say Clichy got on the wrong side or Pants should have cut it out, but it should not be that easy to play a telling ball into our box. It sounds as though I am crucifying the lad but the fact is we have changed as a club and the ball is firmly in his court to work at his art and frankly improve. His fitness is another matter altogether. I have borne in mind that to find English players to be in our squad is tough but I believe the way to progress is to have young players brought up on the very technical aspect of playing fullback, so we as fans may have to be patient.

I take on board all you are saying but this is one of the very reasons why the defensive midfielder has become so popular too- he plays deep allowing the two centre halfs to go and challenge in the areas vacated by the full backs if they haven't recovered, without leaving themselves over exposed in the middle.

The way we play it is totally immpossible for the full back to defend a counter attack if he's been involved at the opposite end of the pitch in an attack of our own.

Dont fool yourselves - zab doesn't get back, kolo defo doesn't, clichy sometimes does but watch all the so called best , they don't get back -simple as that,what they do have however is a plan in place and they cope, as i say the defensive midfielder has a big part to play.

Look at the starting position of our c/halfs , they are already far apart each side of the box to allow the def mid to come n get the ball, it shouldn't make. That much difference if they have to defend these areas .

The way we play, our full backs are more or less attacking players, some of you might not like the fact but the truth is they are.

 

[mayo31]

If this is true, then why has his game deteriorated?

I think it's inevitable his game has gone backwards when he just isn't played. I'd like to see the affect of Vinny or Aguero's game if they didn't play.

I know Richards has injury problems, but those are worsened if you just don't play him. As it happens he was one of our better players against Wigan.

Another black mark against Pellegrini. Rodwell, and to an extent Lescott and Milner are in a similar position. If you don't use your playing assets sufficiently then their playing value diminishes. Ferguson was expert at getting the most out of his squad players, and he kept them all ticking over. We have barely played these players at all, and then fans moan at their lack of form. Look at the bigger picture.

Not sure how Pellegrini can be blamed for Rodwell and Richards constantly being injured. If their bodies are not up to the rigours of the game that is not the managers fault.

You cannot play either if they are knackered, what is he supposed to do. If he played them 70% fit and they broke down he would be slated.

Richards is simply not good enough for how we play the game. He never seems to have the ball under control, it is always bobbling. Reminds me of watching someone trying to play on a Sunday league pitch, the ball bobbles everywhere.

Yesterday he was shocking.

Yesterday he was shocking - how many misplaced passes did you count from Micah - be honest.
One sticks out in my mind when he tried zipping it into nasri s feet but it got cut out ( 1st half )

How about a bit of emphasis put on the fact that navas doesn't know how to play with Micah but Milner does !!

Im really shocked about the amount of fucking shite Micah gets given on here - he can't take a throw !
He can't pass!! He doesn't understand!! He can't tackle !! He dives !! The club jester !! ( what a disrespectful **** you are not to mention what a dick head ! )he doesn't look comfortable with the ball so he's no good ( just like jolean).
I dont really give a fuck wether these two look comfortable on the ball as long as they are affective at what they do.

Wow - its a bit fuckin over the top .

Micah gets half a dozen games under his belt he becomes a more polished player, if zab had played only a handful of games scattered throughout the last two seasons , do you think he'd look as good as he does now??
No player would let's be honest. - Micah did ok y/day , he didnt let anyone down , the club , the fans , the manager, his team mates or himself.

None of the papers gave him a bashing whatsoever - so why the fuck are our own lot doing it ! what's wrong with some of you blues ? Get a grip .

What a rant you have gone on there, not sure who you calling a **** or a dick head but whoever it is aimed at you want to rain in it.

 

[skybluepete]

Not sure how Pellegrini can be blamed for Rodwell and Richards constantly being injured. If their bodies are not up to the rigours of the game that is not the managers fault.

You cannot play either if they are knackered, what is he supposed to do. If he played them 70% fit and they broke down he would be slated.

Richards is simply not good enough for how we play the game. He never seems to have the ball under control, it is always bobbling. Reminds me of watching someone trying to play on a Sunday league pitch, the ball bobbles everywhere.

Yesterday he was shocking.

Yesterday he was shocking - how many misplaced passes did you count from Micah - be honest.
One sticks out in my mind when he tried zipping it into nasri s feet but it got cut out ( 1st half )

How about a bit of emphasis put on the fact that navas doesn't know how to play with Micah but Milner does !!

Im really shocked about the amount of fucking shite Micah gets given on here - he can't take a throw !
He can't pass!! He doesn't understand!! He can't tackle !! He dives !! The club jester !! ( what a disrespectful **** you are not to mention what a dick head ! )he doesn't look comfortable with the ball so he's no good ( just like jolean).
I dont really give a fuck wether these two look comfortable on the ball as long as they are affective at what they do.

Wow - its a bit fuckin over the top .

Micah gets half a dozen games under his belt he becomes a more polished player, if zab had played only a handful of games scattered throughout the last two seasons , do you think he'd look as good as he does now??
No player would let's be honest. - Micah did ok y/day , he didnt let anyone down , the club , the fans , the manager, his team mates or himself.

None of the papers gave him a bashing whatsoever - so why the fuck are our own lot doing it ! what's wrong with some of you blues ? Get a grip .

What a rant you have gone on there, not sure who you calling a **** or a dick head but whoever it is aimed at you want to rain in it.

Why would anyone who supports our club want to alienate one of our players by calling him "the club jester "
I personally think he's a dick head and also being very disrespectful of one of our own players so no i wont reign it in pal .

 

[mayo31]

When you jumped in I cannot see where anyone had called Richards the club jester.

I did not hear anyone on Sunday alienate any player either, Richards was not booed. All people are doing here is expressing their opinion on the way he has played. Someone even detailed several games he has been very poor this season so it is not a one off.

Calling people cunts or dick heads is one way to go about alienating others and perhaps yourself. Not required pal.

 

[Blue Mooner]

must watch a different game - zabaleta must stop every attempted cross from the opposition - i will be watching carefully , even though i dont need to .
In the 2nd half , in an attacking sense zab wouldn't have done any better or created anymore than what Micah did .

It would also compromise zabs game with MD playing on the inside of him.micahs not played many games and still finding his feet so to speak under the new manager coz of injury, ideally vinnie would have played alongside him.

I think also when Micah has played the manager has probably made too many changes, subtle changes more often throughout the season would have seen more players in form and not out of touch, not playing for 20 games then playing one isnt going to help, iv said it through out the season, if we get a couple of injuries to key players in the remainder of the season were fucked- manage players better and pick them for the correct games - one or two changes max , in the right games won't affect the way we play so much .

Your statement above in bold...no of course not, but it's the type of cross that you allow to get in. Against Wigan, there was no trickery, no faint, he didn't even have to try hard to get the ball in, just a standard, low ball across the box and I guarantee you that Zabs would have been closer and blocked that cross. As I said earlier he takes up the wrong positions, gets caught ball watching and I continually get frustrated by his inability to get back.

Nothing would please me more than to see him re-discover his form from a few seasons back but maybe, just maybe this team has gone on another level since then.

He is simply not reliable currently and to my mind that one moment shortly after half time ultimately cost us against Wigan and we can't afford slip ups from here on in from a player who doesn't always appear to be fully concentrated and switched on.

So the cross that got in cost us the game??
What a load !!

The cross went behind him, other defenders maybe could have dealt with it?
Pants maybe could do better ??
Clichy should defo do better??

Do you not think the the first goal is more avoidable ?
The blame for the first goal lies with one player only ,again, Michael De ma fucking chellis. - only him ,nobody else but you choose to pick the second goal out because you can arguably put the blame on the player you want "out".

Watch the 2nd goal again
Pathetic attempt by yaya to win the ball
MD lets him run right past him
The cross is passed behind Micah- how do you stop those , leave a trailing leg ??
No other players along the 6 yard box to clear
Pants maybe does better
Clichy didnt attack the ball to clear

I do think clichy was slightly impeded though .

So the cross that got in cost us the game?? The second goal was the killer goal in terms of getting back in the game. Pants and Clichy issues would not have occurred if Micah had stopped the initial cross. He was the root of the problem and it could so easily have been stopped.

he cross went behind him, other defenders maybe could have dealt with it? Exactly to my point his positioning was awful, he should have been closer and able to block the cross meaning the ball would not have gone behind him.

The first goal again comes from michas area of the pitch, where was he? MDM covers gets turned but Fortune buys the penalty. Watch him step across MDM when he gets past, MDM cant do anything BUT collide into him. Imo a better referee would have seen that this was a player finding the contact rather than the other way round. Hate penalties like these.

I admire you sticking up for Micahand hope he comes good and shoves my crticism back where it came from but unfortunatey i see no evidece that he will improve his positional play,concentration or abilityto mame the right sort of runs when attacking.

 

[skybluepete]

Your statement above in bold...no of course not, but it's the type of cross that you allow to get in. Against Wigan, there was no trickery, no faint, he didn't even have to try hard to get the ball in, just a standard, low ball across the box and I guarantee you that Zabs would have been closer and blocked that cross. As I said earlier he takes up the wrong positions, gets caught ball watching and I continually get frustrated by his inability to get back.

Nothing would please me more than to see him re-discover his form from a few seasons back but maybe, just maybe this team has gone on another level since then.

He is simply not reliable currently and to my mind that one moment shortly after half time ultimately cost us against Wigan and we can't afford slip ups from here on in from a player who doesn't always appear to be fully concentrated and switched on.

So the cross that got in cost us the game??
What a load !!

The cross went behind him, other defenders maybe could have dealt with it?
Pants maybe could do better ??
Clichy should defo do better??

Do you not think the the first goal is more avoidable ?
The blame for the first goal lies with one player only ,again, Michael De ma fucking chellis. - only him ,nobody else but you choose to pick the second goal out because you can arguably put the blame on the player you want "out".

Watch the 2nd goal again
Pathetic attempt by yaya to win the ball
MD lets him run right past him
The cross is passed behind Micah- how do you stop those , leave a trailing leg ??
No other players along the 6 yard box to clear
Pants maybe does better
Clichy didnt attack the ball to clear

I do think clichy was slightly impeded though .

So the cross that got in cost us the game?? The second goal was the killer goal in terms of getting back in the game. Pants and Clichy issues would not have occurred if Micah had stopped the initial cross. He was the root of the problem and it could so easily have been stopped.

he cross went behind him, other defenders maybe could have dealt with it? Exactly to my point his positioning was awful, he should have been closer and able to block the cross meaning the ball would not have gone behind him.

The first goal again comes from michas area of the pitch, where was he? MDM covers gets turned but Fortune buys the penalty. Watch him step across MDM when he gets past, MDM cant do anything BUT collide into him. Imo a better referee would have seen that this was a player finding the contact rather than the other way round. Hate penalties like these.

I admire you sticking up for Micahand hope he comes good and shoves my crticism back where it came from but unfortunatey i see no evidece that he will improve his positional play,concentration or abilityto mame the right sort of runs when attacking.

Iv played football and watched football long enough to be realistic - i know Micah isn't what he was but i do beleive he could become a valuable player for us once again- i mean unless we are going to break the bank and if we do, will this player be happy to play 2nd fiddle to zab- i think not. If we do break the bank zab might find himself playing 2nd fiddle ( im sure that will upset some on here ).

But the point i came back on to make - seriously , how can you blame anyone other than MD for the first goal.
Its beyond me it really is.
Why would Micah be standing in that space from the throwing, he would have been 15 yards deeper than any of the other defenders.
It was MD's man that turned him inside out , he needlessly tripped him, Wigan didnt really even have any threat in the area , it would have got dealt with .
Anyway its about opinions and i beg to differ from yours

 

[skybluepete]

When you jumped in I cannot see where anyone had called Richards the club jester.

I did not hear anyone on Sunday alienate any player either, Richards was not booed. All people are doing here is expressing their opinion on the way he has played. Someone even detailed several games he has been very poor this season so it is not a one off.

Calling people cunts or dick heads is one way to go about alienating others and perhaps yourself. Not required pal.

Mayo someone on here has called him " the club jester" - im not just making it up- everyone is entitled to their opinion as am i .
I personally dont like MD but i dont call him stupid disrespectful names.
The player he's calling is our longest serving player, think he deserves a bit more respect than that, thats all mate .
Seen all this before with city fans trying to destroy Richard edge hills carreer , amongst others i might add .

 

[david whites spike]

Boyata taking his place on the bench tonight.massive vote of no confidence from pellegrini.such a shame and would like to stress that Micah had been a great servant to our club but is obviously now going to move on in the summer.
Can see city moving for a younger fresher english right back in the summer as back up to zabba.have yet to do my homework on who...........