Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)

toby said:
CTID1988 said:
Someone's been arrested for revealing the victims name on twitter

Any links ??

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/michael-le-vell-trial-man-5841295" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... an-5841295</a>
 
CTID1988 said:
toby said:
CTID1988 said:
Someone's been arrested for revealing the victims name on twitter

Any links ??

<a class="postlink" href="http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/michael-le-vell-trial-man-5841295" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... an-5841295</a>

Cheers for that
 
If innocent until proven guilty why is it that the accuser must remain anonymous when the accused, at least in this case, has his name spread all over the media. Where is the fairness in that?
 
fredmont said:
If innocent until proven guilty why is it that the accuser must remain anonymous when the accused, at least in this case, has his name spread all over the media. Where is the fairness in that?


Victims of nonces are less likely to come forward if their name is going to be all over the media.

I'd imagine that the police only pursue sexual cases if they're absolutely sure they have a case, you'd need to be very determined and quite clever or crafty to accuse someone of a sexual assault if you were lying.
Wonder if the police use body language experts when considering whether to prosecute or not.
 
Phil Meup said:
fredmont said:
If innocent until proven guilty why is it that the accuser must remain anonymous when the accused, at least in this case, has his name spread all over the media. Where is the fairness in that?
Think that in this case it's because of the psychological harm done by sexual crimes.

Not suggesting she should be identified, I believe neither should be.
 
fredmont said:
Phil Meup said:
fredmont said:
If innocent until proven guilty why is it that the accuser must remain anonymous when the accused, at least in this case, has his name spread all over the media. Where is the fairness in that?
Think that in this case it's because of the psychological harm done by sexual crimes.

Not suggesting she should be identified, I believe neither should be.

I agree. Both parties should remain anonymous until a guilty verdict has been reached. If the accused is found not guilty, then their identity remains undisclosed.
 
There was a case once where the accused was all but banged to rights until one piece of physical evidence was presented and he was proved to be innocent. So let's not jump to conclusions just yet. Le Vell seems like a bloke you wouldn't have in your company but it doesn't make him guilty, we don't know whether he is a rapist or child molester. Let's wait for the verdict.
 
fredmont said:
If innocent until proven guilty why is it that the accuser must remain anonymous when the accused, at least in this case, has his name spread all over the media. Where is the fairness in that?

I understand the reasoning behind this thinking. I know from a previous thread dedicated to it, that many on here share it.

There are disadvantages to the current system. But I believe advantages far outweigh this idea.

The one thing more than anything that has come out of all these high profile abuse cases, from Savile onwards, is victims of abuse find the strength to come forward from knowing they are not alone.

Stuart Hall and many other sex offenders would not be in prison under your suggestion. They would be out, almost certainly still abusing. Is that a price worth giving up?
 
The Flash said:
fredmont said:
Phil Meup said:
Think that in this case it's because of the psychological harm done by sexual crimes.

Not suggesting she should be identified, I believe neither should be.

I agree. Both parties should remain anonymous until a guilty verdict has been reached. If the accused is found not guilty, then their identity remains undisclosed.

Completely agree .....

nobody should be named until they're found guilty.
 

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