Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)

I find the whole subject of rape extremely hard to deal with as I lost a very good and decent friend because of a rape accusation. i've touched on it before in another thread but a lad I went to school with, gets dragged out of his workplace infront of everyone as his ex accused him of raping her when they had just split up.

Now, from the get go I believed him but many of our friend group didn't and turned on him, as did some members of his family. He got found guilty in court and sent down. He lasted 10 months in prison, his appeal wasn't successful, he took his life a week after as he couldn't face people thinking so badly of him, i've seen the letter he left for his mum and dad and his ex who made the allegations.

A year or so after his death the same girl who I also went to school with cried rape again, this girl wasn't the cleverest and on a drunken night out laughed about what had happened to my mate Sam and this other lad, explaining she made the whole thing up for attention, failing to realise she was chatting a copper up who was on a night out.

She is now in prison for perverting the course of justice, she got 15 months..

Not the same as a suspected pedophile but I will always be wary of knowing all facts before making a decision about anyones guilt.
 
SiWatts90 said:
I find the whole subject of rape extremely hard to deal with as I lost a very good and decent friend because of a rape accusation. i've touched on it before in another thread but a lad I went to school with, gets dragged out of his workplace infront of everyone as his ex accused him of raping her when they had just split up.

Now, from the get go I believed him but many of our friend group didn't and turned on him, as did some members of his family. He got found guilty in court and sent down. He lasted 10 months in prison, his appeal wasn't successful, he took his life a week after as he couldn't face people thinking so badly of him, i've seen the letter he left for his mum and dad and his ex who made the allegations.

A year or so after his death the same girl who I also went to school with cried rape again, this girl wasn't the cleverest and on a drunken night out laughed about what had happened to my mate Sam and this other lad, explaining she made the whole thing up for attention, failing to realise she was chatting a copper up who was on a night out.

She is now in prison for perverting the course of justice, she got 15 months..

Not the same as a suspected pedophile but I will always be wary of knowing all facts before making a decision about anyones guilt.

That's fucking evil.
 
johnny on the spot said:
SiWatts90 said:
I find the whole subject of rape extremely hard to deal with as I lost a very good and decent friend because of a rape accusation. i've touched on it before in another thread but a lad I went to school with, gets dragged out of his workplace infront of everyone as his ex accused him of raping her when they had just split up.

Now, from the get go I believed him but many of our friend group didn't and turned on him, as did some members of his family. He got found guilty in court and sent down. He lasted 10 months in prison, his appeal wasn't successful, he took his life a week after as he couldn't face people thinking so badly of him, i've seen the letter he left for his mum and dad and his ex who made the allegations.

A year or so after his death the same girl who I also went to school with cried rape again, this girl wasn't the cleverest and on a drunken night out laughed about what had happened to my mate Sam and this other lad, explaining she made the whole thing up for attention, failing to realise she was chatting a copper up who was on a night out.

She is now in prison for perverting the course of justice, she got 15 months..

Not the same as a suspected pedophile but I will always be wary of knowing all facts before making a decision about anyones guilt.

That's fucking evil.
Isn't it just
A poor lad innocent and takes his own life
What a horrible woman she is.
 
The cookie monster said:
johnny on the spot said:
SiWatts90 said:
I find the whole subject of rape extremely hard to deal with as I lost a very good and decent friend because of a rape accusation. i've touched on it before in another thread but a lad I went to school with, gets dragged out of his workplace infront of everyone as his ex accused him of raping her when they had just split up.

Now, from the get go I believed him but many of our friend group didn't and turned on him, as did some members of his family. He got found guilty in court and sent down. He lasted 10 months in prison, his appeal wasn't successful, he took his life a week after as he couldn't face people thinking so badly of him, i've seen the letter he left for his mum and dad and his ex who made the allegations.

A year or so after his death the same girl who I also went to school with cried rape again, this girl wasn't the cleverest and on a drunken night out laughed about what had happened to my mate Sam and this other lad, explaining she made the whole thing up for attention, failing to realise she was chatting a copper up who was on a night out.

She is now in prison for perverting the course of justice, she got 15 months..

Not the same as a suspected pedophile but I will always be wary of knowing all facts before making a decision about anyones guilt.

That's fucking evil.
Isn't it just
A poor lad innocent and takes his own life
What a horrible woman she is.

It's a horrible situation for everyone involved but as I said, it makes you want all the facts of a situation before coming to a conclusion. Sam's own mother turned on him and referred to him as a rapist as she couldn't imagine a woman ever lying.

The one saving grace if that is possible is that the evil woman will have to move away as everyone in the community knows her and what she did, hopefully she is haunted by her actions but I very much doubt it :(
 
johnny on the spot said:
SiWatts90 said:
I find the whole subject of rape extremely hard to deal with as I lost a very good and decent friend because of a rape accusation. i've touched on it before in another thread but a lad I went to school with, gets dragged out of his workplace infront of everyone as his ex accused him of raping her when they had just split up.

Now, from the get go I believed him but many of our friend group didn't and turned on him, as did some members of his family. He got found guilty in court and sent down. He lasted 10 months in prison, his appeal wasn't successful, he took his life a week after as he couldn't face people thinking so badly of him, i've seen the letter he left for his mum and dad and his ex who made the allegations.

A year or so after his death the same girl who I also went to school with cried rape again, this girl wasn't the cleverest and on a drunken night out laughed about what had happened to my mate Sam and this other lad, explaining she made the whole thing up for attention, failing to realise she was chatting a copper up who was on a night out.

She is now in prison for perverting the course of justice, she got 15 months..

Not the same as a suspected pedophile but I will always be wary of knowing all facts before making a decision about anyones guilt.

That's fucking evil.

indeed it is. what a truly disturbing story.
 
mackenzie said:
Gaylord du Bois said:
mr t said:
Who knows if he's guilty or not? Only 2 people know the truth. I've not paid any serious imterest to the trial but from what I can gather it seems there doesn't seem to be any witnesses or evidence to prove the case one way or the other. Not an easy decision for any juror/jury to make.
There's normally a great deal information that enters the public domain once a verdict is reached.
Journos silenced (on certain evidence)until the end of the trial etc.

I have a feeling that this is what may happen in this case.

Likewise Sharon............
 
The judge wants a unanimous verdict so I'd say he'll be propping up a bar and not sitting behind some, very soon.
 

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