Michael le Vell (Kevin Webster)

I've no idea if the lad people are talking about on here is a lad I knew but he was a big City fan. Probably still is. But I've not seen him at a game since he got out.

This lad was convicted for child abuse. Not a totally different scenario to the one the prosecution have alleged in this case in fact. But not a single person I've spoken to since ever had a suspicion of what he was upto. He was popular. One of lads. And as "normal" a bloke as you could imagine.

This picture in our heads of nonces hanging around school gates or the local swimming pool probably couldn't be further from the truth in most cases.

It's a bit depressing and scary to think about really but probably most people will be acquainted with one somewhere along the line. Even if it's just someone from work or a face that goes in your local.
 
tidyman said:
I've no idea if the lad people are talking about on here is a lad I knew but he was a big City fan. Probably still is. But I've not seen him at a game since he got out.

This lad was convicted for child abuse. Not a totally different scenario to the one the prosecution have alleged in this case in fact. But not a single person I've spoken to since ever had a suspicion of what he was upto. He was popular. One of lads. And as "normal" a bloke as you could imagine.

This picture in our heads of nonces hanging around school gates or the local swimming pool probably couldn't be further from the truth in most cases.

It's a bit depressing and scary to think about really but probably most people will be acquainted with one somewhere along the line. Even if it's just someone from work or a face that goes in your local.

Yep. My mates dad was abusing his kids, so his grandkids. They found out when there was a programme about it and one of the kids said something long the lines of "thats what grandad does to us". Cant imagine the feeling of finding out your own dad had been doing that
 
tidyman said:
I've no idea if the lad people are talking about on here is a lad I knew but he was a big City fan. Probably still is. But I've not seen him at a game since he got out.

This lad was convicted for child abuse. Not a totally different scenario to the one the prosecution have alleged in this case in fact. But not a single person I've spoken to since ever had a suspicion of what he was upto. He was popular. One of lads. And as "normal" a bloke as you could imagine.

This picture in our heads of nonces hanging around school gates or the local swimming pool probably couldn't be further from the truth in most cases.

It's a bit depressing and scary to think about really but probably most people will be acquainted with one somewhere along the line. Even if it's just someone from work or a face that goes in your local.
I did NOT believe it. I still don't want to. It is depressing...and I've been off work for months with depression.
 
tidyman said:
I've no idea if the lad people are talking about on here is a lad I knew but he was a big City fan. Probably still is. But I've not seen him at a game since he got out.

This lad was convicted for child abuse. Not a totally different scenario to the one the prosecution have alleged in this case in fact. But not a single person I've spoken to since ever had a suspicion of what he was upto. He was popular. One of lads. And as "normal" a bloke as you could imagine.

This picture in our heads of nonces hanging around school gates or the local swimming pool probably couldn't be further from the truth in most cases.

It's a bit depressing and scary to think about really but probably most people will be acquainted with one somewhere along the line. Even if it's just someone from work or a face that goes in your local.

I'd agree with that. The stereotype isn't always the case.
 
Its normally the closest that do it. There's been nonces in all walks of life and professions including the police, doctors, firemen, teachers, etc....all people that you'd think care for their fellow human beings. Is it about sex or control? I don't know and I will never figure out why some people could do such horrendous things to innocent children.
 
tidyman said:
I've no idea if the lad people are talking about on here is a lad I knew but he was a big City fan. Probably still is. But I've not seen him at a game since he got out.

This lad was convicted for child abuse. Not a totally different scenario to the one the prosecution have alleged in this case in fact. But not a single person I've spoken to since ever had a suspicion of what he was upto. He was popular. One of lads. And as "normal" a bloke as you could imagine.

This picture in our heads of nonces hanging around school gates or the local swimming pool probably couldn't be further from the truth in most cases.

It's a bit depressing and scary to think about really but probably most people will be acquainted with one somewhere along the line. Even if it's just someone from work or a face that goes in your local.

A good, informed post

I'm finding a massive increase between the ages of 18 and 35, though it's down to tools such as the Internet surfacing the act, also the cultural landscape has changed how it is perceived and looked upon!
 
Joycee Banercheck said:
Bluebee2 said:
The Jury is out so let's hope they get it right either way.
Oh its real. I just can't be arsed putting the picture up. He's been caught with kiddie pics. He's jailed up.

I was meaning Levell's trial
 
Joycee Banercheck said:
stony said:
Joycee Banercheck said:
You're obviously a Heywood lad. Unbelievable stuff. I know him! Its not right. Hope you're ok dude. Maccer out.

What's he called Joycee ?
Its in all the papers so I don't think I'm being slanderous or owt. Paul Mc Connell. He was PJMCCIUK on here I think. I used to think he was a voice of reason. Scary innit.

No not Heywood, Salford actually. Must be a lot of them about. This lad wasn't a city fan. I can't help talking about him in past tense!
 
markyboyblue said:
Joycee Banercheck said:
stony said:
What's he called Joycee ?
Its in all the papers so I don't think I'm being slanderous or owt. Paul Mc Connell. He was PJMCCIUK on here I think. I used to think he was a voice of reason. Scary innit.

No not Heywood, Salford actually. Must be a lot of them about. This lad wasn't a city fan. I can't help talking about him in past tense!
Yeah he is. He's a blue. I know the guy and I've seen him in Mary D's. We must know different peadophiles.
 
The crown find it very hard to turn down such cases even if there's is no defining evidence, there was a case where a few from Bradford were given no further action by the police only to be found guilty years on, I think it's more so will the suspect crack under cross examination, and the crown covering there own backs which is understandable although you have to sympathise with somebody accused and charged of such hideous crimes and having to go through such stress of a trial when they really are innocent to a point where their case should of never got to court, but if it catches more then it's the only way, the media reports may keep the victims identity hidden but I think if you add two and two together you can guess quite well who the victim is, and if that's right then there's a reason also. With the jury out I think he will be found not guilty unless there's something else we don't know
 
I don't know if anyone's posted here since the judge started his summing up, but, I just heard that the medical evidence was 'neutral' from which I conclude that there's no evidence of the girl being raped as a 6 year old, as you'd expect some evidence of harm. In the absence of that, unless the girl has been very, very convincing, I can't see Levelle being convicted.
He seemed to put his denials across pretty well as far as I can make out, and, if he gets off, then as much as I detest the snivelling rag git, he'll have my sympathy for having been falsely accused. We'll be quick to put him down if he's convicted, so, it has to work both ways in my eyes.
 
stonerblue said:
Joycee Banercheck said:
stony said:
Utter horseshit. If he's innocent then 99.9% of people on here will be happy that a child wasn't abused.
I must be the 0.01 that hope the kid didn't get touched.

squeeze me in to that percentage.

Two of you who didn't read my post properly then...tsk...
 
If he is acquitted/cleared/found not guilty (choose your own terminology), a lot on here simply won't have it. Go through this thread; a sizeable number of BM'ers have him down as guilty, end of.
 
jimharri said:
If he is acquitted/cleared/found not guilty (choose your own terminology), a lot on here simply won't have it. Go through this thread; a sizeable number of BM'ers have him down as guilty, end of.
That's because these cases are notoriously difficult to bring to trial, because it's so painful for the victims to re-live their experiences. He wouldn't be on trial unless he was guilty IMO! Do you honestly think the child is lying!!!
I think he will get off. He's obvioulsy got enough cash to buy a very good defence team.
 
Phil Meup said:
jimharri said:
If he is acquitted/cleared/found not guilty (choose your own terminology), a lot on here simply won't have it. Go through this thread; a sizeable number of BM'ers have him down as guilty, end of.
That's because these cases are notoriously difficult to bring to trial, because it's so painful for the victims to re-live their experiences. He wouldn't be on trial unless he was guilty IMO! Do you honestly think the child is lying!!!
I think he will get off. He's obvioulsy got enough cash to buy a very good defence team.

I've no idea whether the child is lying or not, but I wouldn't take it as an indication of guilt just because someone is on trial.
 

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