Netanyahu doesn't want the establishment of a Palestinian state. And was willing to kill an Israeli leader to prevent it.
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Two RAF Typhoon jets and a refuelling tanker left for Israel last night to help guard Israel.
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This what you mean?
“Think some of the pro Israel brigade are struggling to hide their fear of Islam”
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Apart from Ducado most of the others just seem to think Israel are not occupying anywhere and have stolen no land. So their argument is why do our neighbours keep attacking us when we've done fuckall wrong!
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Islamophobia is literally fear of Islam? Not sure what point you're trying to make?
No it's not what I mean.
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Jews were not all expelled from Medina.
Only the three Jew tribes Nadir, Qurayza and Qanuyna were eventually expelled.
Prior to expulsion (and for the most heinous Jews, death penalty) Jews were provided equal rights to other religions.
The reason why the specific Nadir, Qurayza and Qanuyna Jews were expelled were because of their belief in the Promised Land and that only Jews are deserving of the earth (dunya).
When Islam began governing both Medina and Mecca and surroundings, the Constitution of Medina was declared.
It declared equal rights for ALL religions and tribes and to protect the territory from outsider invasion. Declared by the Muslim governor Muhammad.
One example is tax. For Muslims, they annually had (and still now today they do) to pay for zakah. The collected zakah is then funded to 6 Muslim groups of the territory, viz.
1) fakir (very poor)
2) miskin (poor)
3) aul (someone who does the zakah)
4) hutang (those with severe debt)
5) ibnu sabil (wanderers who are homeless)
6) fisabilillah (volunteer soldiers to protect the territory and all the religious tribes within).
Those who are not in any one of the six above are required to pay tax (zakah).
For non-Muslims (i.e. Christians, Jews, Druze, Polytheists) they are not allowed to pay zakah, but its equivalent tax which is jizyah. The tax are of equivalent amount to zakah with the exception that the funds go to the non-Muslim very poor, poor, jizyah, those in severe debt, wanderers, and volunteer soldiers to protect the Medina-Mecca territory. The non-Muslim volunteer soldiers are called dhimmis and they are exempted from tax.
In general, the order of the Medina constitution is protection of all Medina and Meccan populace from external harm. Even because of the Constitution that Mohammad’s staunchest (the polytheist Abu Sufian supreme commander of the Quraisy Mecca) who only intent was to kill Muhammad in their many battles were eventually pacified and became Muhammad’s ally. Muhammad had every opportunity to assign death penalty to the person (Abu Sufian) who wanted to assassinate Muhammad, but Abu Sufian was forgiven and thus the polytheist Quraisy and the monotheistic Abrahamic religions became interfaith.
The only Jews expelled from Medina Mecca and their territories were the Nadir, Qanuyna and Qurayza because they were zealots who wanted to kill the governor and all Muslims so that the land is only Jew.
Add-on fact, the word zealot is Hebrew because Jews were the first known concept of zealotry (even before Japan shinobi (ninjas) and the Arab hashashins (ie. Assassins)). The most known Jew zealots being the Sicarii who killed any Jew person against monofaith. Thousands of Jew civilians were killed by the Sicarii Jews.
During the Greco-Roman Caesarea age, many years before Islam came to be, the zealots and Sicarii were the militia (extremists) who killed civilians including moderate Jews.
The equivalent of extremists in today’s age include the Kahanist (Kach and Eyal being two of them), the Irgun, Palmach, Lehi, and earlier in the 1930s the ZFG in Nazi Germany, and the RZI in fascist Italy.
ZFG was headed by Jabotinsky who founded Betar, and RZI was headed by Weizmann who followed Jabotinsky’s Betar. Betar is pro-fascism and fascist state. Their Beitar fatigue is fascism.
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Its a pity they don't guard the poor women and children in Palestine.
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Easy to say that now while ignoring the historic rejection of the two state solution by the Arabs of Palestine.
First the Peel commission report was rejected. Then the League of Nations recommendations was rejected. Next is the Camp David accord. Every rejection is followed with an attack on the Jewish population.
Why do we always like to place a burden on the Jewish people that no other country in the world would accept?
In the context of today, Israel traded land for peace with Egypt. No wars between these countries to date.
Israel traded land for peace with the Palestinians in Gaza. They did not get the peace they wanted. they have every right to reclaim the land they won from Egypt.
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kaz7
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I hate this , wtf are we sending our airforce to shoot down missles for israel , us and the yanks should be saying you have done enough in gaza and if you choose to be the agressors then you shoot your own missles down , we are enabling them and the idf under that horrible leader are out of control