Bigga
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I think you're on the edge of what's acceptable. I think you'd like to say "controlled by Jews" but fear the accusation of antisemitism. It's not easy - the IHRC definition and examples of antisemitism tread a fine line of distinction between Israel's policies and Jews, but then the distinction is blurred by Israelis themselves so any criticism of Israel is decried as antisemitism.
Zionists living abroad is itself a self-contradiction. Zionism was (is still?) a call to all Jews to move to the Jewish state. Now that most Israelis are not immigrants but descendants of immigrants, how many still identify as Zionists?
Half of Israeli Jews are non-religious (Hiloni) which means they may be sceptical about the extent of Eretz Israel historically. Half of Israeli Jews think Arab Israelis should be expelled from Israel (not necessarily the same half or the other half).
Some of this goes back to the first half of the last century and what the Zionists thought should happen to the "indigenous" Arab population in the proposed Jewish State. That seems to vary from a rather racist assumption that lazy Arabs would be happy to benefit from the ingenuity and hard work of Jews to a realisation that usurping their land would not be an easy thing.
Anyway, that was really just personal musing as a preamble to sharing this article, a year on from October 7. It's useful, but is rather silent about conditions in Gaza and the West Bank prior to October 7.
A brutal year and a tale of two Israels: the one that is feared and the one that is fearful | Jonathan Freedland
There is a yawning gap between how the world sees Israel and how Israelis see themselves. If only each could see through the other’s eyes, says Guardian columnist Jonathan Freedlandwww.theguardian.com
Just a point to note: people shouldn't conflate Judaism with Zionists. There are more Christian based faiths [in Gov] that are zionists than people think.
And the "Half of Israeli Jews" that "think Arab Israelis should be expelled from Israel" are antisemetic.
It's strange that the irony is lost on them.
