I was appalled by Starmer's reply to a question from a SNP member: "Will he repeat from the Dispatch Box what he told his lawyers to argue in the High Court—that he believes that no genocide has occurred or is occurring in Gaza?"Starmer said “Israel’s conduct in Gaza is intolerable” some ministers calling for us to recognise the state of Palestine and the forced displacement of Palestinians. We’ve heard it all before yet nothing changes.
The Lib/dems are the ones shouting the loudest for the Palestinians in the house. Maybe it’s the foreign office holding up our progress. They have so many excuses for why we are still providing arms/spare parts to Israel
Sounds like you are still grappling with it tbh.Are you on the right side of history?
Sorry, I completely disagree. It’s easy to hit out our government, present or past, but the reality is that we have absolutely no say in this. I have morals, you have morals, are you saying that we are not part of that system?
If we are being specific to this party, which you seem to be hooked on, we've seen them, on multiple occasions, go against what the Israeli government has done. But that doesn’t matter, Israel will do what they want while the only power that can stop them, looks on.
At the same time, why are Hamas still functioning, not releasing the hostages and allowing the likes of Qatar to arbor the heads of these terrorists/freedom fighters/criminals organisations to continue?
Seems to me that Israel can kill indiscriminately while those who purport to support the Palestinians, really don't support the Palestinians and use these poor people as collateral in their political chess.
Fuck the lot of the murdering cunts. Basically approved genocide from both sides.
Not at all, but you know that.Sounds like you are still grappling with it tbh.
It depends on whether the West truly acts according to its self-proclaimed values.A thought experiment. Imagine instead of becoming a homeland for the Jews, a colony of Swedes was formed in Palestine.
The locals didn't take kindly to it. However the Swedes were militarily superior due to US support. More and more people went there, including Poles, Czechs and others.
Over the course of the next century they took more and more land to help the increasing population, before finally ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank .
Would the West have allowed this? I first thought no due to the fact there was no biblical argument available to the Swedes.
But I'm not entirely sure, as we'd still view them like Bono said about Israelis as 'us'.
Think we've seen the West like most places acts in self interest. They'll only use the values card if it suits. Iraq needs democracy for example. It probably did but that's not why the yanks invaded. Twice.It depends on whether the West truly acts according to its self-proclaimed values.
I don't believe it, too many bugs.
I guess it depends on how many Western palms were lucratively greased by the Swedes. The fucking cowards in our government won't call for Palestine to be liberated as long as there is a transaction to be madeA thought experiment. Imagine instead of becoming a homeland for the Jews, a colony of Swedes was formed in Palestine.
The locals didn't take kindly to it. However the Swedes were militarily superior due to US support. More and more people went there, including Poles, Czechs and others.
Over the course of the next century they took more and more land to help the increasing population, before finally ethnically cleansing Gaza and the West Bank .
Would the West have allowed this? I first thought no due to the fact there was no biblical argument available to the Swedes.
But I'm not entirely sure, as we'd still view them like Bono said about Israelis as 'us'.
That's nice of them. Now if they could apportion their next thirty years of coverage to the thousands of Arab women and children that have been indiscriminately slaughtered we will have a fair and impartial press.3 minutes on 6 news dedicated to two 'hostages' being recovered...
It feels to me that the "value system" is more like a hierarchy. If you submit to them, they will say nice things about you in the media. If you don't, the media will be flooded with your negative news, you will be treated as a pariah.Think we've seen the West like most places acts in self interest. They'll only use the values card if it suits. Iraq needs democracy for example. It probably did but that's not why the yanks invaded. Twice.
Did they follow up with anything on the Thousands of Palestinian hostages held without charge in Israeli jails?3 minutes on 6 news dedicated to two 'hostages' being recovered...
The BBC are bending over backwards to give us a in their words a “balanced equal” coverage of the Israeli war in Gaza, the two dead hostages have a name and I’m delighted for their families.That's nice of them. Now if they could apportion their next thirty years of coverage to the thousands of Arab women and children that have been indiscriminately slaughtered we will have a fair and impartial press.
And then a squadron of pigs will fly by your window.
Nope.Did they follow up with anything on the Thousands of Palestinian hostages held without charge in Israeli jails?