I think the point is how should Israel defend itself proportionally?I've already explained that I don't think it is proportionate. If you can explain to me how this is justified I'd really like to hear it?
PhDOh give over - this is a forum not a basis for marked PHD submission.
Why did Hamas start it then?This isn't a war. This is a complete destruction of the entire infrastructure of the Gaza Strip and the death of a population. This is Genocide and ethnic cleansing. The United Nations, Spanish Government and many others back up those claims.
Along with every aid agency who so far have lost 116 aid workers in the midst of this bombardment. If this ends today, how do the Palestinian people survive? Winter is coming, and for the 600k homeless people there will be many more deaths. We haven't even started to see the catastrophe that is Palestine, but I'm sure there are worse things to come and we will be witnessing this on our TV's.
Shame on our government who say that this is acceptable. These aren't the British values I stand for.
Good one. That made me laugh.
War is never proportional.
If you don’t want bad things to happen don't start it.
I'm fairly sure it was Intentional, by Hamas, as part of a long term plan to choke Israel's support in the west - and Isreal do seem keen to jump into the trap with both feet.
I don't think Israel leaders are actually that thick, so their plan is what exactly? I haven't worked it into yet.
I think you know that Palestinian deaths were already disproportionately high since Israel became a state.I think the point is how should Israel defend itself proportionally?
Should it leave Gaza and leave Hamas to it and just accept that a few thousand Israeli's will die now and then?
What about letting Hamas into Israel and taking land the land it wants, or all of it given that's its aim?
Why did Hamas start it then?
Any nation that fights a war with an arm tied behind its back is looking for to many casualties of it's own.
Hamas do seem to have got the war of annihilation they craved though.
Let's have your comprehensive account of an Israeli military response that achieves it's objectives and remains proportionate.
Maybe, I hope so.The USA, i known Israel is their proxy state in the region but they can quite easily cut off funding and bring them to book surely.
I think the point is how should Israel defend itself proportionally?
Should it leave Gaza and leave Hamas to it and just accept that a few thousand Israeli's will die now and then?
What about letting Hamas into Israel and taking land the land it wants, or all of it given that's its aim?
I've just heard a radio interview with an Israeli spokesman saying the media are showing pictures just of dead civilians, not Hamas fighters.
And I was sure the IDF had cameras with them.
It's a simple matter, no country is willing to take in over 2 million refugees, it's a line in the sand I don't why people still think it's an option it's not, it's a far right wet dream but it can't and won't be doneWho's made it clear that expulsion is not an option?
The Americans have said that, but is it clear?
The existential threat to Israel is not from terrorist attacks, but from alienating ordinary Americans. A time may come when "there arose a new king over Egypt, who did not know Joseph".
Why do you get so affronted with this? It's a relevant question to ask someone in response to their comments. It's going to keep being asked I'm afraid so either get used to it or ignore it, easy either way for meAgain, really?
Same could be said for Netanyahu. For more than 20 years he's opposed a 2 state solution. If you keep kicking people, eventually they'll kick back. What did Israel expect? Isn't 70 years enough?Why did Hamas start it then?
Any nation that fights a war with an arm tied behind its back is looking for to many casualties of it's own.
Hamas do seem to have got the war of annihilation they craved though.
I hope you're right. But there are, according to the IDF, tunnels all under the south of Gaza. How can they eliminate Hamas without destroying them as well?It's a simple matter, no country is willing to take in over 2 million refugees, it's a line in the sand I don't why people still think it's an option it's not, it's a far right wet dream but it can't and won't be done
Netanyahu was a product of israel kicking back , it doesn't make what he has done correct , but just in as much as people can argue that hammas attack was a product of oppression Netanyahu was a product of attacks on IsraelSame could be said for Netanyahu. For more than 20 years he's opposed a 2 state solution. If you keep kicking people, eventually they'll kick back. What did Israel expect? Isn't 70 years enough?
Here’s the Israeli Death Force in action against those pesky human shields:
I look forward to seeing the usual suspects trying to defend this abomination.
Why did Hamas start it then?
Any nation that fights a war with an arm tied behind its back is looking for to many casualties of it's own.
Hamas do seem to have got the war of annihilation they craved though.
How many times are you going to repeat this mantra. It's bollocks and you know it.And yet if Hamas hadn't attacked this war wouldn't have started.