Middle East Conflict | Netanyahu orders strikes on Gaza (p1161)

fulabeer said:
Both Israel/USA and Iran have awful administrations. This is where the real problem is.

Iran poses a very real threat to so many different people. Their proxies are causing death and mayhem in the region, and under no circumstances should the world let alone the Israelis/US let them have a nuclear threat.

The US poses a very real threat to so many different people. Their arrogance is causing death and mayhem in the region, and under no circumstances should the world let the Israelis/USA do as they please.

It's a shit show, but anybody sticking up for Iran wants their heads feeling. Other than the usual suspects, no decent country wants anything to do with them.

It's a shit show, but anybody sticking up for the US/Israel wants their heads feeling. Other than the usual suspects, no decent country wants anything to do with them.

I think in this instance, regime change for Iran/Israel/USA is the best way forwards!
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The reason Iranian's hate the US and Israel is a direct consequence of them already enforcing regime changes on them, i personally know many that moved to the UK as a direct consequence of the current regime. The US and Israel want to control everything, it's all part of a huge playbook for them for continuous de-stabilisation and this suits their own agendas. The religious side if Iran is quite happy, the moderate side are not, there is a lot of suppression of freedoms there BUT the West don't care about that. Netanyahu has been claiming that Iran are months, if not weeks away from building an atom bomb since the 90s. Iran are one of the key strongholds in trying to help Palestinians (doing a v poor job though). They quite clearly help arm militants, but it's a huge circle of hate which originates from forceful displacement. Regime changes in any of the above 3 is not going to help, it needs drastic ideology changes with forward thinking people who are willing to give and take. Swapping Biden for Trump, or Trump for Biden makes fuck all difference as would swapping Netanyahu for Lapid, they're all the same. The fact there are now people openly wanting Iran to succeed, a regime that nobody likes, shows how bad the US and Israel really are, the masterminds of evil.
 
grunge said:
As I mention above. I think they probably were trying for it. but Id prefer real evidence before bombing, rather than just something suggestive of wrong doing. especially when the timing just feels like a distraction action.
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What would the real evidence be? Iran is hardly going to build actual nuclear weapons and then show this to IAEA officials. We weren't going to see any evidence in the future and the IAEA has acknowledged this because their monitoring capabilities were removed by Iran.

They may also be using enrichment as a bargaining chip, IE, stop the sanctions and stop Israel or we will actually develop a nuclear bomb but isn't that blackmail? That might wash elsewhere but using military means to blackmail the US isn't a very smart move.

None of this matters because either way as of 2 days ago Iran no longer has a nuclear programme. They have also simultaneously assured further sanctions which they cannot escape from without unconditional submission to US/Israeli demands. Unfortunately it is innocent Iranians who will now suffer the consequences.
 
inbetween said:
What would the real evidence be? Iran is hardly going to build actual nuclear weapons and then show this to IAEA officials. We weren't going to see any evidence in the future and the IAEA has acknowledged this because their monitoring capabilities were removed by Iran.

They may also be using enrichment as a bargaining chip, IE, stop the sanctions and stop Israel or we will actually develop a nuclear bomb but isn't that blackmail? That might wash elsewhere but using military means to blackmail the US isn't a very smart move.

None of this matters because either way as of 2 days ago Iran no longer has a nuclear programme. They have also simultaneously assured further sanctions which they cannot escape from without unconditional submission to US/Israeli demands. Unfortunately it is innocent Iranians who will now suffer the consequences.
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No idea what evidence would be. perhaps if the US could get on the same page and not be telling the world with one hand there is no evidence and then with the other bombing saying there is evidence might be a good start.

Also the idea they have no program anymore might be inaccurate seeing as there was so much telegraphing of the attack they managed to move at least 16 trucks worth of stuff out of the base before it was hit.

Best case they were moving centrifuges. worst case moving enriched nuclear material that could be used in a dirty bomb at least.
 
I missed this.

At least 22 worshippers have been killed and 63 wounded in a suicide bomb attack at a Christian church in Syria.

The bomber opened fire as people were praying inside Mar Elias Church, in the Dweila neighbourhood of Damascus, before detonating his vest.

No group immediately claimed responsibility for the attack but Syria's interior ministry said a member of the Islamic State group was behind Sunday's attack.

'A suicide attacker affiliated with the Daesh (IS) terrorist group entered the Saint Elias church... opened fire then blew himself up with an explosive belt,' the ministry said in a statement.

The attack was the first of its kind in Syria in years, and comes as Damascus under its de facto Islamist rule is trying to win the support of minorities.

France's foreign ministry condemned the 'abject, terrorist' attack, while Greek's foreign ministry called it 'abhorrent'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Suicide bomber 'kills 22 and injures 63' in attack on church in Syria

The bomber opened fire as people were praying inside Mar Elias Church, in the Dweila neighbourhood of Damascus, before detonating his explosive vest.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
 
inbetween said:
If I was this bloke I'd stay away from pagers and walkie-talkies.

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The archaic and barbaric way that pair of cunts talk is like something from the 13th century. It’s also like something from Brass Eye.

Devil this, satan that. A leading military leader and a TV presenter ffs. Pair of tedious fucking superstitious cunts and their fucking fairy in the sky - not that he seems to be helping them out a great deal atm.

No way should those mad cunts have a nuke They simply are not capable of rational thought.
 
shevtheblue said:
The reason Iranian's hate the US and Israel is a direct consequence of them already enforcing regime changes on them, i personally know many that moved to the UK as a direct consequence of the current regime. The US and Israel want to control everything, it's all part of a huge playbook for them for continuous de-stabilisation and this suits their own agendas. The religious side if Iran is quite happy, the moderate side are not, there is a lot of suppression of freedoms there BUT the West don't care about that. Netanyahu has been claiming that Iran are months, if not weeks away from building an atom bomb since the 90s. Iran are one of the key strongholds in trying to help Palestinians (doing a v poor job though). They quite clearly help arm militants, but it's a huge circle of hate which originates from forceful displacement. Regime changes in any of the above 3 is not going to help, it needs drastic ideology changes with forward thinking people who are willing to give and take. Swapping Biden for Trump, or Trump for Biden makes fuck all difference as would swapping Netanyahu for Lapid, they're all the same. The fact there are now people openly wanting Iran to succeed, a regime that nobody likes, shows how bad the US and Israel really are, the masterminds of evil.
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I’m sure the US and others didn’t exactly endear themselves to the Iranian’s when they sold chemicals to the Iraqi’s to be used in warfare against them in the 80s.
 
robbieh said:
Enough already.

Palestine was divided and half of it was given to European Jews, who like Europeans were extremely aggressive and racist towards non Europeans.

Your idea that Iran wants to attack Europe is based on nothing more than your miserable racism and European supremacist attitude.
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Bollox. It's based on the fact they want to irradicate Israel as an entity.
Really, you need to give your head a wobble if you think otherwise:
 
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Brewster's millions said:
I can’t believe that there’s folk who think Iran is doing the world a favour. They are a country who can’t keep their nose out of anything, they are happiest when their bombs/missiles are killing folk around the world. Horrible bastards, Hamas and Hezbollah too.
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Do you realize how stupid you sound whilst defending the most warlike country on the planet.
I'll say it again. Iran has every right to be concerned and involved in its immediate area.
Unlike the US.
Hamas and Hezbollah are the outcome of the US arming Israel to the teeth.
 
BlueAnorak said:
Bollox. It's based on the fact they want to irradicate Israel as an entity.
Really, you need to give your head a wobble if you think otherwise
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Israel should never have been created. As Christopher Hitchens said it was a bad idea and many Jews around the world support this view. Israel is governed by European Jews with very European attitudes. i.e they feel superior to all the peasants that surround them.
It didn't work for us in Africa and India and it's not going to work for Israel in the middle east.
 
yankblue said:
Netanyahu has been saying Iran is about to have nuclear weapons and trying to get the US to bomb them for 3 decades now, he finally found a president dumb enough to do it
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Not the first one dumb enough. There has been a few persuaded by Netanyahu



And there was only one person who predicted the World Trade Centre being targeted. This is very tin foil, but of the many thousands of buildings, what are the odds eh?

 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
The archaic and barbaric way that pair of cunts talk is like something from the 13th century. It’s also like something from Brass Eye.

Devil this, satan that. A leading military leader and a TV presenter ffs. Pair of tedious fucking superstitious cunts and their fucking fairy in the sky - not that he seems to be helping them out a great deal atm.

No way should those mad cunts have a nuke They simply are not capable of rational thought.
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Who SHOULD have a nuke? Americans that shag their flag, please allegiance to Israel before their God OR Israel who are actually bat shit crazy & will go to any length, including terrorism, to get what they want? If you listen to military leaders across the world, they are pretty much all insane, some are just more emotive in their choice of language.
 
robbieh said:
Israel should never have been created. As Christopher Hitchens said it was a bad idea and many Jews around the world support this view. Israel is governed by European Jews with very European attitudes. i.e they feel superior to all the peasants that surround them.
It didn't work for us in Africa and India and it's not going to work for Israel in the middle east.
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Being superior probably comes from thinking yourself as the Chosen People. This is the same with a lot of Saudi's, a superior complex that makes them believe they are above everyone else on the earth.
 
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