Middle East Conflict

Prestwich_Blue said:
I'm not sure anyone likes it - it's horrible to see. I looked at my two little granddaughters last week and thought what it must be like for kids like them in Gaza. Or the ones in Israel who are held hostage or whose parents were massacred on October 7th which none of you seem equally bothered about. But why do you think they're doing it?

Hamas, supposedly the representatives and government of the people of Gaza, have hidden among those people. They've spent probably over £1bn on building tunnels under mosques, hospital, schools etc., rather than spending it on things that would benefit the whole population and seeking a peaceful settlement. They knew what would happen, but I'm not sure they counted on the ferocity of the response.

They talk about martyrdom but hide in tunnels and are happy to let innocents get killed. They're fucking murderous scum and sometimes you need to take sides, even if it's not a particularly wholesome choice.
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Nothing justifies what Hamas or Israel have done. Nothing. All those people murdered, raped kidnapped. None of it. I'm concerned about those people equally, as are several others on this thread, even though this clearly isn't an equal struggle. Are you?
 
Zabbasbeard said:
Nothing justifies what Hamas or Israel have done. Nothing. All those people murdered, raped kidnapped. None of it. I'm concerned about those people equally, as are several others on this thread, even though this clearly isn't an equal struggle. Are you?
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No! Israel is fully justified in trying to wipe Hamas out following October 7th. We can certainly criticise how they've gone about that but the justification can't be argued. If you can't see that then I pity you.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Here's what I posted on page 913.

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On the same weekend of our largest protest March with 800,000+ was also yesterday the Arab League Summit of 57 countries including Palestine, on the Gaza situation. https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/saudi-arabia-host-extraordinary-joint-islamic-arab-summit-riyadh-saturday-2023-11-10/...
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That spending billions of dollars on tunnels comment doesn’t look so good in the cold light of day.



(I know you weren’t saying a billion alone on them but you get my drift)
 
inchy14 said:
That spending billions of dollars on tunnels comment doesn’t look so good in the cold light of day.



(I know you weren’t saying a billion alone on them but you get my drift)
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That's the estimate of how much they've spent on building tunnels. $1bn. These things don't build themselves. And billions have been diverted into Hamas leaders' pockets. They give less of a fuck about the ordinary Gaza citizens than even Israel does.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
No! Israel is fully justified in trying to wipe Hamas out following October 7th. We can certainly criticise how they've gone about that but the justification can't be argued. If you can't see that then I pity you.
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Pity all you like.
There is no justification for the murdering of civilians in this by either side. They shouldn't die in the cause of wiping out anyone. That's what is happening.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
That's the estimate of how much they've spent on building tunnels. $1bn. These things don't build themselves. And billions have been diverted into Hamas leaders' pockets. They give less of a fuck about the ordinary Gaza citizens than even Israel does.
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I’ve just watched the video on sky regarding that tunnel… fuck me if you think that’s where billions of dollars went….
 
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