Middle East Conflict

Prestwich_Blue said:
www.kenyans.co.ke

Uproar After UN Abandons Kenyan Advisor's Contract

The official was appointed to the top UN role in 2020 after serving in Kenya for several years.
www.kenyans.co.ke www.kenyans.co.ke

Expert on genocide says it's not genocide. Perhaps you could educate her.
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If its not a genocide then its just whole sale destruction of infrastructure, mass slaughter of women, kids and the elderly and medics and journalists accompanied by mass starvation, deprivation of drinking water and medicine and baby formula - if we reclassify it as that and don't use the G word is that ok? Or have I missed something off the list?
 
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bluethrunthru said:
If its not a genocide then its just whole sale destruction of infrastructure, mass slaughter or women, kids and the elderly and medics and journalists accompanied by mass starvation, deprivation of drinking water and medicine and baby formula - if we reclassify it as that and don't use the G word is that ok? Or have I missed something off the list?
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Call it what you like but it's not genocide, and the UN's former Special Advisor on Genocide agrees, who I think is rather better qualified than a few gobshites on Bluemoon.
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
Call it what you like but it's not genocide, and the UN's former Special Advisor on Genocide agrees, who I think is rather better qualified than a few gobshites on Bluemoon.
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That's complete bollocks and you know it - there's no one more qualified at anything that the gobshites on bluemoon
 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And the accusation was that her contract wasn't renewed exactly because of that, because it didn't fit the UN's biased narrative. But whether she's the former Special Advisor or not, she's still far more expert on the subject than the cliche spouters on this thread.
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Special advisor or not (by the way she hasn't much of a track record/ credibility ) she doesn't know more than her employer
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/letter-from-the-state-of-palestine-23apr25/
 
Scoobz3 said:
Special advisor or not (by the way she hasn't much of a track record/ credibility ) she doesn't know more than her employer
https://www.un.org/unispal/document/letter-from-the-state-of-palestine-23apr25/
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You're a bit dense aren't you?

Thats a letter from the UN Observer for Palestine, in other words their official representative, not a UN official. Don't you think they're going to be just a little bit biased? Now be a good boy, do as mummy tells you, drink your milk and go to bed.
 
Craig said:
I think he might have genuine problems inside his head. He goes missing for a few days after his graph, whilst hundreds more innocent people get murdered. Then comes back with some more shit to say it’s not genocide.Even if the gobshiite is right, shall we just call it mass murder then and will he be happy with that! Absolutely insane.
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could be some people are just happy and support what is going on - how you square that with living with children (assume there are some) and family in a house not being bombed and seeing what is going on in Gaza I don't know.
Humanity is a precious thing - lack of it is at best sad.
 
Well, I'm just glad to see that people are finally acknowledging my great wisdom :)

Honestly though, arguing semantics is pointless. It's deflection tactics from people who don't want to face up to just how evil Israel and the US are
 
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www.amnesty.org

Amnesty International concludes Israel is committing genocide against Palestinians in Gaza

Amnesty International’s research has found sufficient basis to conclude that Israel has committed and is continuing to commit genocide against Palestinians in the occupied Gaza Strip.
www.amnesty.org www.amnesty.org

www.bbc.co.uk

Gaza war: UN rights expert accuses Israel of acts of genocide

Francesca Albanese says Israel seeks to destroy Palestinians, in a report Israel calls "outrageous".
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

 
Prestwich_Blue said:
And the accusation was that her contract wasn't renewed exactly because of that, because it didn't fit the UN's biased narrative. But whether she's the former Special Advisor or not, she's still far more expert on the subject than the cliche spouters on this thread.
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Biased narrative? Really? It would be nice to see international and impartial journalists on the ground in Gaza and West Bank but they've been banned by Israel. I suppose the hundreds of aid workers killed might have informed the UN opinion.
The UN like most sensible people can see the difference between a nation state and a terrorist group and applying the norms of a democratic nation to a terrorist group is illogical.
You and others just need to take a step back is my advice and start with basic humanity - a Palestinian' child's death is the same tragedy as an Israeli one and then take it from there.
 


Israel has issued hundreds of demolition orders and forced mass displacement of Palestinians 1064 demolition notices in the occupied West Bank
964 Palestinians have been killed in the occupied West Bank since October 7th
 
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Genocide is a word we use when I see what is happening to Palestinians in Gaza a total annihilation of its people by starvation, bombed and forcibly driven from their homes into a containment area and their homes flattened then bulldozed, there are no words to describe the horror of it all.
 
Re the replacement of Alice Nedritu, the UN Adviser on the Prevention of Genocide, she has rightly been drawing attention to the horrors of what's going on in Sudan.

She's right about Sudan - but the criticism is that she had remarkably little to say about Gaza, but said that "her prevention mandate does not allow her to express a position on whether the crime of genocide or any other specific international crime has been committed, which can only be determined by a competent, independent and impartial court of law. In this respect, the Special Adviser reiterates her full respect to the ongoing proceedings at the International Court of Justice."

She expressed concern that "Heavy weaponry has been used in densely populated areas. Airstrikes continue. Properties have been destroyed and looted. Civilians persist to be disproportionately impacted – they are killed, detained, tortured, and dispossessed of their homes and land. Disturbing videos and photographs of these violations and abuses are being posted on social media". But that was about Sudan.

10 million people have been displaced in Sudan (20% of the population). Famine from the civil war may have killed half a million (and millions are at risk). But 90% of the population of Gaza has been displaced. 1 in 100 of the population of Khartoum have been killed; 1 in 30 of the population of Gaza have been killed. So one might think she could have sounded a bit less neutral about the situation in Gaza. (From last October: https://www.un.org/unispal/document...al-adviser-on-prevention-of-genocide-29oct24/ )

Here's another quote from her. “Genocide is so easy to commit because people don’t believe it until after it happens.”
 
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Gorton_Tubster said:
Thousands being killed and its one word that's important.! Says everything. It's like mass deaths just doesn't matter.
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It's just deflection tactics on here....in the proper world though a word v multiple deaths etc .... the word shouldn't matter or stop action being taken to end whats happening.
 
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