Middle East Conflict

[ChicagoBlue]

Its al jazeera, international news broadcaster. Seriously you are worried about who the picture came from?

No, but the lack of understanding regarding the change from 1917 to 1948 is astounding! Throw in the loaded language and it’s a waste of ink.

 

[mexico1970]

Kudos to you for still fighting the corner , ive no where near the patients this forum requires

I just pop in every now and then to have a say.

The miscreant they are holding up as a good source is a known Jew and west hater who lives in Germany and goes to university in NY.

Given every chance to be upwardly mobile in the west and instead of using that privilege to better the plight of her womenfolk in the backward culture she comes from she shits on the culture offering her hope.

 

[blueinsa]

I just pop in every now and then to have a say.

The miscreant they are holding up as a good source is a known Jew and west hater who lives in Germany and goes to university in NY.

Given every chance to be upwardly mobile in the west and instead of using that privilege to better the plight of her womenfolk in the backward culture she comes from she shits on the culture offering her hope.

We also get told we have nothing to fear from these types of people.

Go figure?

 

[Vic]

Great source!

And, what on earth happened between 1917 and 1948???

Oh wait…!!

YCMIU.

I assume you're not thinking of Zionist terrorism against the British.

 

[Vic]

Why? I don't know the interpretation (and i tend not to believe twitter people) . But thats normal stuff in warfare isn't it? Separate the males, women and children to safety.

Then do what to the males?

No, it's not normal. Don't normalise it.

 

[Vic]

Its al jazeera, international news broadcaster. Seriously you are worried about who the picture came from?

No, the source is the UN.

But we know they're really Hamas.

 

[mexico1970]

Then do what to the males?

No, it's not normal. Don't normalise it.

Should they just allow the Hamas fighters through hidden behind women and children Vic? You know, just take their word for it?

 

[Blue and true]

Palestinians are being used as a proxy by outside forces. The population is being sacrificed to make larger, more strategic, political goals. They are pawns in a greater struggle than their own daily struggles.

Sadly, there is nothing Israel can do about that and they have to face the person placed in front of them.



Jews want to live in peace in Israel. Some politicians and a small minority of the Jewish population are more radical in their beliefs. They generally do not wield great power, but they are often part of the coalitions that are a fact of Jewish politics.

Having been to Israel numerous times, and knowing a fair few Jewish people, I can only say that most Jewish people I know and have met only want some security from the constant stream of anti-Semitic vitriol that emanates from their close neighbors and have no desire to move out into the settlements in order to attempt to move borders. Indeed, the current borders are a function of defensive wars fought against those who constantly seek to both minimize and remove the Israeli state.

To be fair, I don’t know anyone living in Gaza or the West Bank, so I don’t have l any of their personal stories for comparison. However, I believe the majority of Palestinians would like to raise their families in peace and prosperity, too. As I have said, I believe they’re used as pawns. Fodder for the larger strategic goals of their masters.

I've never been to Israel, so will bow to your knowledge on the mindset of the locals more broadly. But, again, your defense can also be applied to Palestinians; namely, they desire a peaceful resolution and want security from the threat of Zionism and Islamophobia. I wasn't suggesting all Israelis are Zionists. But nations are defined by those at the top, and the idealogies of those at the top; in this instance, it's not outlandish to state Zionism is one of the root causes of what we've seen over the last century in this region. Again, I stress, most Israeli Jews will want to live in peace; but sadly it's not that majority that dictate the country's policies and direction.

Many Chinese citizens won't be staunchly communist, but China is still, irrefutably, a communist state.

 

[Vic]

Sounds a right ****, just a little digging exposes some of these shocking sources.

Hebh Jamal has idolized terrorists, called for “intifada” violence, expressed support for Hamas financiers and spread hatred of Israel.

Jamal has also opposed the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) definition of anti-Semitism.

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She's not the source though, is she? She's a messenger.

Do you think this video was taken by someone with a pro-Palestinian agenda? Next to an Israeli checkpoint?

 

[Vic]

Should they just allow the Hamas fighters through hidden behind women and children Vic? You know, just take their word for it?

Well, any Hamas fighters could take a leaf from the IDF and disguise themselves as women.