Middle East Conflict

[ChicagoBlue]

Normalised lives means exactly what it says, Arabs and Jews deserve to go about their daily business unhindered and not under the threat of missile attacks, having their land stolen et, etc

Take religion out of the equation and centuries (millennia?) of Holy War out of the equation, and who knows?!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Frankly, that's an astonishing admission. "This round of conflict"? I take it you don't mean the round of all the building of illegal settlements.

Multiple wars, multiple incursions, multiple step backs to “recognized borders,” multiple pencil lines on a map.
Pick a year in history and let’s use those borders, shall we? Which year do you want to use?

And, frankly, I’m no longer sure I understand the word “illegal” as it relates to maps, buildings, wanton destruction, or the death of innocents.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

The settlers use IDF shields.

As you state, a completely different thing:
Soldiers vs innocent civilians…it’s right there in the name and even you should be able to see that.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

To indiscriminately bomb Lebanese people and call it simple collateral is just wrong.

Assumes facts not in evidence, and is amusing given the ballistic nature of the rockets their proxies rain down on the Israeli population.

If Israel dropped a nuclear bomb on Beirut killing millions then is that collateral because apparently it seems so?

And, that post wins the internet’s “Hyperbolic Hypothetical of the Day” award.
Congratulations!

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Before the October 7th massacre, in 2023, 300 Palestinians were killed in the West Bank alone. This is an ongoing process. October 7th did not just happen in a vacuum.

I didn’t say it did.

What was the objective? Did they bother to think about October 8th? 9th? The live streaming of the murder of Americans in Israel?

Tit for tat with a bigger stronger foe eventually gets you a good slap. Not many expected this slap, but then maybe they mistook the slapper for someone else?!

Appears to have been a big mistake, UNLESS the real objective was to start a massive regional war, while America (Israel’s biggest ally) is in a precarious situation?

I was chastised about the continued re-arming of Israel by the US months ago, when being told I was a monster for supporting the U.S. export of bombs and missiles and aircraft to Israel while they pushed south in Gaza!

I dared to say that the U.S. has to maintain a strong Israel because Hamas (& Hezbollah) are impotent without Iranian finance and arms, and they have to ready to defend themselves NOT against Hamas, but Iran.

Guffaws ensued…even though Israel was already defending themselves on both (H&H) fronts.

Now, here we sit.

What, no laughing anymore at the prospect of Iranian missiles raining down on Israel???

No giggling over the possible Israeli response(s)?

The conflict in this entire region is amongst nations and peoples with exceedingly long memories, yet most of us put events into the new social media timeline context of yesterday, last week, or last month.

These people are playing multi-generational, possibly multi-century, three dimensional chess…and so far only the pawns and a few rooks, plus a black knight (or two) have being taken. Let’s see how far the kings will go to protect their queens!

 

[The blue phantom]

And, frankly, I’m no longer sure I understand the word “illegal” as it relates to maps, buildings, wanton destruction, or the death of innocents.

Settlement Expansion in Occupied Palestinian Territory Violates International Law, Must Cease, Many Delegates Tell Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases

Pointing to ongoing expansion of Israeli settlements, demolition of Palestinian structures, daily violence and continued inflammatory rhetoric by their Government representatives, a senior United Nations official reiterated to the Security Council the Secretary-General’s appeal for an end to the...

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[The Fat el Hombre]

Dearie me

 

[west didsblue]

Dearie me

Not sure I’d take the word of a Russia supporting Fox News and RT pundit and a Trump fan.

 

[ChicagoBlue]

Settlement Expansion in Occupied Palestinian Territory Violates International Law, Must Cease, Many Delegates Tell Security Council | Meetings Coverage and Press Releases

Pointing to ongoing expansion of Israeli settlements, demolition of Palestinian structures, daily violence and continued inflammatory rhetoric by their Government representatives, a senior United Nations official reiterated to the Security Council the Secretary-General’s appeal for an end to the...

press.un.org

Ah yes, the UN!

 

[Postman Pep]

Not sure I’d take the word of a Russia supporting Fox News and RT pundit and a Trump fan.

I know your standard routine is to trash the source but what are you questioning here?

Is it the reality of widely shared footage or is your quibble about the quoted numbers of dead, injured and displaced?