Middle East Conflict

Don Karleone said:
Israel is bombing people in tents, again. The videos on Twitter are horrific.
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Hezbollah attacked a military target in Israel, israel responded by doing what it does best - cowardly dropping American bombs from a safe distance on palestinian civilians, the make shift hospital in this instance:



"Israel said" is not journalism.

And yes the videos going round are horrific - you can see people still alive lay down in the tents with iv attached to their arms, struggling as they burning alive

So that's a school they bombed on Friday, killing 5 children, and a hospital last night, murdering many more people, burning them alive

Yet more horrors committed by israel. No one can pretend that they didn't know about this genocide. It's live streamed every day. Shame
 
Ducado said:
It's hard to disagree but Israel is a democracy and governments can be voted out, many think this is a win win for Israel it is not, it needs a functioning economy and at the moment it's starting to malfunction they can't fund a perpetual large scale war, they also don't have the manpower either, due to population sizes losses have a multiplier effect

They are using an old fashioned doctrine that I doubt will work anymore especially as it's adversaries have got more powerful the only way to end this is for a two state solution sooner or later the Israeli body politic will realise that in order to have a country that is accepted into the family of nations a peaceful solution will have to be found
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Unfortunately though the entirety of the power over this (as in 99%) lies on the Israeli side. If Israel does not want a Palestinian state then there won't be a Palestininan state and that's the current policy of the Israeli government and it will never change.

We can talk up two state solutions but that has been suggested within the west many times and here we are a million miles from such a thing. The reason why we're a million miles away is because of one key opposer, Israel. The existence of other opposers such as Hezbollah or Hamas are just consequences of that fact.

Israel is beginning to overarch beyond simple defence and it has already trespassed into acting upon ideology. We can dress this up by saying that well at least Israel is a democracy but Netanyahu doesn't even command a majority of the Israeli Parliament. He had to appease some very hardline right elements to even instigate a government.

Israel can only salvage this from within but clearly that isn't going to happen. Nazi Germany never held a vote to ask it's people whether it wanted WW2 or the subsequent atrocities committed. Germans only opposed Nazi Germany when it became clear that Germany was facing annihilation. Israel is far from that obviously but the danger is clear.
 
The blue phantom said:
Just as bad as Biden this Labour Party. Fuckin monsters the lot of them. Kids being burned alive in Gaza and these cunts are still goin on about Iran. Not a fuckin dickie bird on the war crimes.
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It's not just the labour party and it's no coincidence that Starmer who ties the pro Israel line is in number 10 and Jeremy Corbyn who dared to question Israeli foreign policy is in the wilderness.
 
Mazzarelli's Swiss Cheese said:
It's not just the labour party and it's no coincidence that Starmer who ties the pro Israel line is in number 10 and Jeremy Corbyn who dared to question Israeli foreign policy is in the wilderness.
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Tory Alan duncan came out months ago and said there are people very high up who have put israels interests ahead of those of our country:



And was put under investigation for his comments:



It didn't matter whether labour or the tories won this election, both would have continued with this monstrous genocide, such is the Israeli influence throughout both parties (and seemingly throughout the media going off the deplorable way that this genocide has been reported)

In other news, looks like this was the poor fella who can be seen in the videos screaming for help as he burned alive after israels latest massacre and cowardly bombing of palestinian civilians in tents:

 
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