Middle East Conflict

[west didsblue]

Does that mean that areas with councillors who are christian are more likely to be Zionists?

Nope.
Why would it?

 

[Rascal]

Nope.
Why would it?

Why does your suggestion stand then?

 

[west didsblue]

Why does your suggestion stand then?

You really need to ask why Muslims are more likely to be supporters of Palestine than Israel?
In case you’re not being deliberately obtuse, Muslims are unsurprisingly more likely to feel an affinity with people of the same religion, and around 99% of Gazan Palestinians are Muslim.

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

Mr. Kobayashi, I have read your comments and agree with you!! So please do not take these points as a criticism !! I have clearly stated before, that other than the recent Hamas attack, I have taken a Pro Palestinian approach to this conflict. The danger comes when people start making comments that without proper research could be flawed.Much like us being led on with chat of WMD in Iraq. Now I stand to be corrected, and any comments are welcome. I have taken time to listen to the Israeli side of this matter and perhaps was a little surprised.

1. Illegal Israeli settlements. I feel that many people refer to UN Resolutions which are not legally binding.
2.Only the UN Security Council can create a final lawful situation. This has not yet happened.
3. I suspect when people discuss illegality, they may also be referring to Charter 49 of the Geneva Convention of which indeed the Israelis are in breach. But this does assume an illegal occupation.
4.In 1922 the League of Nations Council agreed that Palestine in total was to become the home of the Israelis but under a British Mandate. It did also say however that the rights of Palestinians were to be observed.Israelis argue that this in fact is the only binding agreement. But one can also argue that they failed to protect the rights of the Palestinians.
5.It does not help that the USA and Britain quite often abstain from UN votes on these matters.

Finally..I urge anyone who has Netflix to watch BORN IN GAZA..this documentary pre-dates this current crisis. In truth Gaza is a hell hole and the Palestinians have been treated abysmally.I could barely watch it,shocking footage.

In regards to no.5 can anyone from The US or UK tell me why this happens.

 

[N1985]

Does anyone see a way out of this mess..looks to be heading one way. I was doing so well with my sobriety.

Turn the news off, turn the Internet off and get outside matey. Sobriety is on you Blue. All the shit going on at the minute is doing absolutely no good for mental health everywhere, time to block it out and realise what fantastic things are in your immediate surroundings. You'll be surprised what you find. Inbox always open mate, put the glass down and look for a better perspective

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

No, you prove that your idea of human rights is emminently moveable, in other words we are not all equal, and that a framework of hatred is good enough for you.

You'll find that the Palastinians did decide for themselves a while ago in elections. It is not the rest of the worlds fault that once the people they elect get into power refuse to ever relinquish that power !

I think that’s what Trump was pushing for.

 

[Don Karleone]

 

[Roger Mellie]

I think you need to research why Hamas put their tunnels.
They put them near hospitals for a reason

 

[mancity2012_eamo]

It will not end until the people in Israel and Palestine realise the future is more important than the past.

Look at other long runnung conflicts that have reached a resolution such as Ireland, South Africa or Colombia, "justice" has not been served for individual or collective crimes in these conflicts. A willingness to let go of bitterness and anger and to focus on a future without violence, hatred and division has been the key factor.

The insistence on retribution, the regurgitating of past wrongs and opening up of old wounds will do nothing to advance peace in the middle east (or the quality of this thread!).

Without going back on individual posts, the bit about this that strikes me over and over, is the irony that is seemingly missed, in people’s summations of history or current situations as they unfold.
I don’t know how many times Ive had to reread posts just to make sure I’m getting the logic and I think to myself can I see them having applied the same logic to the Northern Irish conflict.
And I sincerely doubt half of the posters I’m referring to would have.
They just don’t see the double standards or at least learn from the standards that were applied and were found wanting.

I won’t be more specific than that, so don’t ask.

 

[Don Karleone]

I think you need to research why Hamas put their tunnels.
They put them near hospitals for a reason

That doesn't give them the right to bomb civilians. Fuck off with this bullshit.