west didsblue
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Not sure about a billion. A few dozen maybe?
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Middle East Conflict
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Semantics aside, I'm not sure about the exact number but it's more than 1 but probably less than a billion. :)Not sure about a billion. A few dozen maybe?
St.Pauli support
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Sounds like we need a new place for Israel as we will never get a peaceful compromise in the Middle East.
Too crowded there anyway.
It was a stupid idea from the start, it didn't work, let's face the truth.
We need a new plan. Sounds impossible, but maybe we have to be more open minded.
Russia is big enough, that should do. No, bad idea, we need a democracy.
Australia, that would be perfect! Big separate continent, far away and oceans between all the trouble. Lots of Israel know how and technology on offer. Any objections?
Too crowded there anyway.
It was a stupid idea from the start, it didn't work, let's face the truth.
We need a new plan. Sounds impossible, but maybe we have to be more open minded.
Russia is big enough, that should do. No, bad idea, we need a democracy.
Australia, that would be perfect! Big separate continent, far away and oceans between all the trouble. Lots of Israel know how and technology on offer. Any objections?
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I'm not going to bother with this sorry mate. The Jewish people have a right to self-determination.
Denying the Jewish people their basic human rights, including the right to self-determination, is anti-Semitism. This basic right is fulfilled by the existence of the State of Israel. It is protected and advanced by the political movement to guarantee Jewish self-determination – Zionism. Zionism is about the Jewish people, and does not compete with any other people’s basic human right of self-determination. As anti-Zionism seeks to undermine this basic right of the Jewish, it is anti-Semitic. When anti-Israel rhetoric, advocacy or activity crosses the line beyond which it seeks to undermine the legitimacy of the Jewish State, it is anti-Semitic. There is no government whose policies are not legitimately criticized, but when this criticism aims to dismantle that country, it ceases to be legitimate. Disagreeing with French policies does not lead critics to the conclusion that France as a county is illegitimate, or that France should be disbanded. The same respect should be afforded to the State of Israel.
Nowhere did I deny that Jewish people have the right to self-determination, in fact I referred to creating the state of Israel as a noble cause.
Acknowledging that the way the state was created was violent, hostile and set the stage for 100 years of violence is not the same thing as denying the right to self-determination.
So please remove your lame and lazy accusation of antisemitism.
Alan Harper's Tash
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Could you name 100 annexes please? Let alone a billion…Of course there are a billion examples, the UK is literally the best one because even today the UK exerts sovereign power over 50+ countries. Just 100 years ago the UK held sovereign power for over 30% of the world.
Ukraine is a fully recognised country whereas Palestine is not, it's very different, I mean christ Ukraine is even recognised by Russia and Russia knew itself that it was annexing territory. In the eyes of the world Ukraine was territorially invaded and the eastern regions and Crimean Peninsula today are annexed by Russia.
Look at a map though and compare this to Ukraine, what or where is Palestine? Palestine does not exist as a state, the borders of the Palestinian areas were drawn on agreements and not by the ratification of an independent state. The reason that ratification never occurred is because the Palestinians oppose the creation of Israel and still lay claim to all land including the entirety of Israel. It's for this reason that the west does not recognise Palestine.
Palestine should be recognised of course but that requires compromise and acceptance of Israel which unfortunately will never happen, at least it won't with the Hamas regime.
When you say literally a billion, you’re talking nonsense.
Countries within the old British empire were never annexes of Great Britain.
Alan Harper's Tash
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Now that’s been settled, could you point to a successful annexing? Yugoslavia, kind of?Semantics aside, I'm not sure about the exact number but it's more than 1 but probably less than a billion. :)
mancity2012_eamo
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I know why the American government back them now go back and read who I’m talking about.They are backing Israel because Israel and all the Jews living their will be wiped out if they don't. This is highly probable and not a fanciful notion based on opinion - it is highly probable. Based on actions.
They do not want Hitler's Holocaust to be completed. it's why the US backed them since 1948 and it's why they back them today.
Actually don’t I’ll save you time.
Myself and Rascal, I believe are talking about the , Zionist Christian Evangelist lobby in America.
Now that’s been settled, could you point to a successful annexing? Yugoslavia, kind of?
Goa.
Prestwich_Blue
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I agree about the settlements. They're the major cause of tension in the West Bank. And I've been quite clear about my condemnation of Israeli government actions.Clearly they've been given land to live on which they can call homeland BUT they continue to EXPAND illegally which is the main issue.
You do not have a balanced view on Israel. You turn a blind eye to mass murder.
But you've got some brass neck accusing me of not having a balanced view on Israel.
kaz7
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Ten min warnings are no warning at all ffsYou think?
Hamas would never under report casualties in a billion years?
There are also generally warnings before each strike (not always but mostly).
Also it's in their interests to bolster numbers.