Pro Palestinian reporters report Pro Palestinian articles. Who knew?
I'm rather amused at current efforts to hide Hamas mass murder in a torrent of muddy water.
Again that is exactly what they want, they will say Israel is working with the gulf nations
So there was plenty of 'friendly fire'. Given that you are partial to a quibble over death totals because of the governing authority surely you take my point that th full picture of what happened is at least unclear?
It’s been presented differently by the Israelis, in other news the $14 billion dollars has not arrived yet
- The US says that Israel will begin to implement four-hour military pauses in areas of northern Gaza each day to allow civilians to flee
It's remarkable how Israeli intelligence is able to locate, target and take out Hamas locations and even specific individuals throughout Gaza, yet those same Israeli intelligence services supposedly had absolutely no idea that a 3000 strong force of Hamas fighters were going to invade Israel.
True, and communication technology is responsible for most of the success in countering it, the only fool proof way of secretly communicating is the old Number Stations but fortunately having a high power transmitter would rather give the game awayYou could argue the same with 9/11, London Bombings, Madrid, Paris…
Intelligence isn’t some fool proof guarantee terrorists won’t ever succeed. It does however stop a vast majority thank fuck.
Not really comparable at all in my opinion.You could argue the same with 9/11, London Bombings, Madrid, Paris…
Intelligence isn’t some fool proof guarantee terrorists won’t ever succeed. It does however stop a vast majority thank fuck.
That is true, of course, in a normally peaceful environment. But Gaza/Israel isn't a normal environment. Gaza is, what, 300 square miles of what must be one of the most comprehensively monitored territories in the world? With a mile-wide no go area and another mile-wide exclusion zone around the whole perimeter. Palestinians have been shot for throwing stones in those areas. A Palestinian girl was shot dead while playing on the beach, no?You could argue the same with 9/11, London Bombings, Madrid, Paris…
Intelligence isn’t some fool proof guarantee terrorists won’t ever succeed. It does however stop a vast majority thank fuck.
Too many are entrenched in their views to look at things from a different perspective.I know I am talking into the void here however here goes, we all see the world differently we live in our own world and whatever position you take your mind will try and prove it, as Robert Anton Wilson said in the great book Prometheus Rising, “What the Thinker thinks, the Prover proves.” in your own little world you are right and your prover will work flat out to prove it
But what is you took more nuanced view? What if you could really see it from both sides?
It’s been presented differently by the Israelis, in other news the $14 billion dollars has not arrived yet
It’s been sent via a Nigerian prince who is using it to release $100 billion held in a special account.It’s been presented differently by the Israelis, in other news the $14 billion dollars has not arrived yet
You've already answered your own question. Hamas previously attacked from afar with rockets and anything else near the border fence usually amounted to Palestinians throwing rocks. Gaza is not peaceful but why would the Israeli's be worried? There is a complacency there that nothing really bad is going to happen because it hasn't happened before.That is true, of course, in a normally peaceful environment. But Gaza/Israel isn't a normal environment. Gaza is, what, 300 square miles of what must be one of the most comprehensively monitored territories in the world? With a mile-wide no go area and another mile-wide exclusion zone around the whole perimeter. Palestinians have been shot for throwing stones in those areas. A Palestinian girl was shot dead while playing on the beach, no?
You must forgive people for finding it almost unbelievable that 3,000 Hamas fighters could drive up to the border, with a bulldozer, no less, and presumably hundreds of pick-ups, undetected. Add in the warnings from Egypt. Yet, this is what happened.
You would imagine there will be a completely independent public enquiry into what happened after all this is over. The Americans, I am pretty sure, would demand one and I am also pretty sure the conclusion won't be "intelligence isn't some foolproof guarantee terrorists won't ever succeed".
Perhaps they started from a different perspective but "facts on the ground" have entrenched their view.Too many are entrenched in their views to look at things from a different perspective.