Middle East Conflict

[arbabarshad]

The assertion was that Israel possibly wanted to occupy Gaza regardless of the Oct 7th atrocity. This point of debate was then conflated by others, including yourself, with other matters. There was no proof provided that what was originally being stated was anything other than an assumption.

Maybe see the map shown by the mass murderer only in September as proof? That’s before 7th October right?

 

[bluethrunthru]

 

[Ducado]

I could pick you some raving lunatic on the Arab side who could say something equally as shocking, but were does it get us? People have strong opinions so what, they are allowed too have whatever opinions they want

 

[MouldensChippy]

Maybe see the map shown by the mass murderer only in September as proof? That’s before 7th October right?

Maybe you could have a look at the maps in UNRWA schools that eliminate Israel, and are taught to children, that has been ongoing for a long time. They even went to the trouble of hiding one from UN Seceratary General Ban Ki Moon when he visited.

Or does none of that count ?

 

[bluethrunthru]

we smash things up and just walk away - its up to the world to clean up after us

 

[Ducado]

Also they be up shit creek without a paddle without American arms

 

[Ducado]

we smash things up and just walk away - its up to the world to clean up after us

Again they have been told this is not an option, plus without a peace agreement they would be stuck there, it’s a perfect trap for them I’m surprised they walked into it

It’s possible that the release of some hostages and a ceasefire might draw a curtain on this episode, because the options are not good for either side

By the way the 14 billion has not arrived from the US yet, make of that as you will

 

[stonerblue]

A must watch if you want some history of the region.

Storyville - Blue Box

Brave account of how the Jewish National Fund acquired land in Palestine.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[The blue phantom]

Maybe see the map shown by the mass murderer only in September as proof? That’s before 7th October right?

Roachy never thinks things through.

 

[M16 citeh]

What would your alternative be? It’s not a perfect system, many people take their freedom for granted until it’s not there, the very fact we can discuss contentious issues without censorship on this very forum proves that, in many countries it would lead to prison or worse

And you can protest against the government without being attacked by the state, the poor sods in Iran would love that freedom

Give me liberal democracy

I'm not saying I have an alternative but I'm just cautious of judging alternative systems of governance against our own liberal democracy. The spread of western systems of governance goes hand in hand with colonialism and imperialism. As you say many countries have repressive governments. However if viewed post colonialy, I believe that the countries should (probably too late by now anyway) have the right to decide their own destiny without further western interference.