Millwall fans refused entry - Complaint upheld

lancs blue said:
If Harry the Dog was still alive he'd be well into his 60s or possibly 70s but he'd still be a ****. ;-)
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My cockney (in the correct sense) brother-in-law once told told me that the week after that documentary the North Bank at Highbury were singing "Harry the Dog is a poodle"!

Poor from the club this - and their response was fucking small-time.
 
It seems our illustrious PR team did their usual job on here. A simple early apology and positive press release good have nipped this in the bud

Ticket office and PR - our two weak links off the field.
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
My cockney (in the correct sense) brother-in-law once told told me that the week after that documentary the North Bank at Highbury were singing "Harry the Dog is a poodle"!

Poor from the club this - and their response was fucking small-time.
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It was a very poor response to the complaint, the original decision by the TO is sadly typical of that department for almost as long as I've been watching City.
 
Only City could take an opportunity to earn themselves a couple of hundred quid for nothing and turn it into a situation that ends up costing them!
 
This is confusing. Are we saying that clubs should allow fans to sit anywhere regardless of who they support. Clubs have been segregating home and away fans for years. That's wrong is it? Don't tickets say home supporters only?
 
Marvin said:
This is confusing. Are we saying that clubs should allow fans to sit anywhere regardless of who they support. Clubs have been segregating home and away fans for years. That's wrong is it? Don't tickets say home supporters only?
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They weren't 'away fans' Marv, they were neutrals.

Thing is, if they'd logged on to City site and registered as a member then they'd have been able to purchase tickets and no one would've batted an eyelid.
 
If they let themselves known to be Millwall fans i can see why they weren't let in since both sets of fans were banned from each other's grounds less than two decades ago.
 
Marvin said:
This is confusing. Are we saying that clubs should allow fans to sit anywhere regardless of who they support. Clubs have been segregating home and away fans for years. That's wrong is it? Don't tickets say home supporters only?
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They were not away fans, they were neutral. Football fans who missed their game so to save their day drove over to watch a game at City and were refused. Pretty poor really.
 
meeesh said:
They would have sat there.and enjoyed the game like every other responsible adults who go to matches though,wouldn't they ?
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Hello, this is Amanda from the FSF. I assisted the supporters throughout the complaint process. The group have clocked up over a 100 years of home and away supporting between them. To qualify for a ticket for an away game at Millwall, you need to be a club member and vetted. Apart from the teenager in the group, all are responsible adults, none of them have a criminal record (one was a teacher, now retired) and none of them have ever been ejected from the game. Sitting there and enjoying the game was their intention and I'm sure that is exactly what they would have done had they been able to purchase tickets.

They didn't set out with the intention of going to the Etihad but decided to do so when their game v Oldham was called off. Yes, they're Millwall fans but they are also football fans so decided to take advantage of the spare time they had before heading back to London on prebooked trains.
 
The FSF said:
Hello, this is Amanda from the FSF. I assisted the supporters throughout the complaint process. The group have clocked up over a 100 years of home and away supporting between them. To qualify for a ticket for an away game at Millwall, you need to be a club member and vetted. Apart from the teenager in the group, all are responsible adults, none of them have a criminal record (one was a teacher, now retired) and none of them have ever been ejected from the game. Sitting there and enjoying the game was their intention and I'm sure that is exactly what they would have done had they been able to purchase tickets.
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Thanks for taking time to address my post on a City forum,call me old school or whatever,but since I was a youngster there has always been a dislike,(on both sides),between City and Millwall,even to the fact that both sets of fans were once banned from visiting each others grounds,not something that happens in this country very often,I'm sure you agree ?

Albeit this was many years ago,maybe this is a case of some things never forgotten,but I could probably vouch for most City fans,that if they were ever stuck in London with nothing to do,a visit to The Den would probably be the least desired of their destinations to visit.and therefore is my questioning of why these guys wanted to visit Manchester City really.

It maybe is ironic that this dispute at City,was because it was Millwall fans,and therefore it has made headlines,but tell me how it came to light at the ticket office,that they were followers of Millwall ?

I am not condoning the action of the ticket office at City,we know what they are like as an operation,but I'm still scratching my head as to how it became known that's all
 
The last time we played Millwall no City fans were allowed down there and vice versa

Fuck them
 
The FSF said:
The group were two middle aged men, who look extremely respectable, one teenager and one young adult with obvious special needs.
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Hi Amanda, could you tell me how the ticket office were aware these lads were Milwall fans? Just curious.
 
meeesh said:
Thanks for taking time to address my post on a City forum,call me old school or whatever,but since I was a youngster there has always been a dislike,(on both sides),between City and Millwall,even to the fact that both sets of fans were once banned from visiting each others grounds,not something that happens in this country very often,I'm sure you agree ?
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It become known that the group are Millwall because during general chit chat when buying the tickets, one of the group said something to the effect of "lucky we can get tickets here after our game was called off, our day isn't wasted". You were at home. Had you been away and MUFC were at home, then no doubt the group would have gone there. They just wanted to watch a game of football and were genuinely pleased to have an opportunity to visit the Etihad. I take your point about the history between your two clubs but equally, while I accept it's very unlikely, do you accept that there will be some City fans who could go to Old Trafford without causing a problem there? If the starting point is fans from rival clubs can't attend another ground without being a problem, isn't that a little depressing and just reinforces the notion that some have, which is all fans have the potential to be a problem, when that isn't the case at all?

A lot of fans wouldn't dream of going to another club when they have time on their hands but some just love football and would go anywhere to watch it. And a personal anecdote.. we support West Ham and our two young nephews are Chelsea fans. We've taken them to Stamford Bridge a couple of times and behaved, because we know how too, as do more people than don't.
 
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