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Shaelumstash said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Shaelumstash said:
Jesus, Chelsea look impressive. They're almost a carbon copy of Mourinho's first spell. All this talk of 6 or 7 teams can win it is bollocks, 2 horse race this title.

Burnley's defence is shocking..sitting off the play giving too much space and ball watching....Chelsea also had the bounce of the ball....Burnley will need to buy some central defenders to stay up.

I agree Burnley look awful, but the tempo Chelsea are playing at, they're dragging them all over the place. They look like a carbon copy of 2005 Chelsea, they will run us very close.

I think their main weakness is if Fabregas or Costa gets injured, the players they can bring in are nowhere near that level. Guess we could say the same about Silva, but I think we've got more goals in us which usually has a big influence on winning the title.

I wouldn't judge Chelsea by that opposition...they had way too much space and played on the front foot for the whole of the first half...Burnley changed it a bit and pressed more second half but we're never comfortable enough on the ball to get deep enough to put decent crosses in..don't think I've seen so many bad first touches from a team. Wait till they play a decent pressing established PL team.
 
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Shaelumstash said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Burnley's defence is shocking..sitting off the play giving too much space and ball watching....Chelsea also had the bounce of the ball....Burnley will need to buy some central defenders to stay up.

I agree Burnley look awful, but the tempo Chelsea are playing at, they're dragging them all over the place. They look like a carbon copy of 2005 Chelsea, they will run us very close.

I think their main weakness is if Fabregas or Costa gets injured, the players they can bring in are nowhere near that level. Guess we could say the same about Silva, but I think we've got more goals in us which usually has a big influence on winning the title.

I wouldn't judge Chelsea by that opposition...they had way too much space and played on the front foot for the whole of the first half...Burnley changed it a bit and pressed more second half but we're never comfortable enough on the ball to get deep enough to put decent crosses in..don't think I've seen so many bad first touches from a team. Wait till they play a decent pressing established PL team.
As Carragher is saying now Chelsea's problem was breaking down teams like Burnley. They did not lose the league against the other top 4. If I remember straight they took 16/18 against the other top 4. Also agree with Gary Neville that at the moment this is a two horse race and I favour Chelsea, but it will be close.
 
supercrystal7 said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Shaelumstash said:
I agree Burnley look awful, but the tempo Chelsea are playing at, they're dragging them all over the place. They look like a carbon copy of 2005 Chelsea, they will run us very close.

I think their main weakness is if Fabregas or Costa gets injured, the players they can bring in are nowhere near that level. Guess we could say the same about Silva, but I think we've got more goals in us which usually has a big influence on winning the title.

I wouldn't judge Chelsea by that opposition...they had way too much space and played on the front foot for the whole of the first half...Burnley changed it a bit and pressed more second half but we're never comfortable enough on the ball to get deep enough to put decent crosses in..don't think I've seen so many bad first touches from a team. Wait till they play a decent pressing established PL team.
As Carragher is saying now Chelsea's problem was breaking down teams like Burnley. They did not lose the league against the other top 4. If I remember straight they took 16/18 against the other top 4. Also agree with Gary Neville that at the moment this is a two horse race and I favour Chelsea, but it will be close.

6 of the 16 were against us. We shouldn't have lost at the Bridge and had a weakened side at home, we'll take 4 points from them this season.
 
cookster said:
supercrystal7 said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
I wouldn't judge Chelsea by that opposition...they had way too much space and played on the front foot for the whole of the first half...Burnley changed it a bit and pressed more second half but we're never comfortable enough on the ball to get deep enough to put decent crosses in..don't think I've seen so many bad first touches from a team. Wait till they play a decent pressing established PL team.
As Carragher is saying now Chelsea's problem was breaking down teams like Burnley. They did not lose the league against the other top 4. If I remember straight they took 16/18 against the other top 4. Also agree with Gary Neville that at the moment this is a two horse race and I favour Chelsea, but it will be close.

6 of the 16 were against us. We shouldn't have lost at the Bridge and had a weakened side at home, we'll take 4 points from them this season.
We will see. Too early to predict and we don't know what injuries/fixtures either team will have. However, that stat still illustrates that it was the smaller games that cost them the league. Even ignoring the Chelsea/CIty games they still did better than you against Liverpool and Arsenal. The CL could also play a huge part. Both teams could go very deep in that and it will effect the league.
 
cookster said:
supercrystal7 said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
I wouldn't judge Chelsea by that opposition...they had way too much space and played on the front foot for the whole of the first half...Burnley changed it a bit and pressed more second half but we're never comfortable enough on the ball to get deep enough to put decent crosses in..don't think I've seen so many bad first touches from a team. Wait till they play a decent pressing established PL team.
As Carragher is saying now Chelsea's problem was breaking down teams like Burnley. They did not lose the league against the other top 4. If I remember straight they took 16/18 against the other top 4. Also agree with Gary Neville that at the moment this is a two horse race and I favour Chelsea, but it will be close.

6 of the 16 were against us. We shouldn't have lost at the Bridge and had a weakened side at home, we'll take 4 points from them this season.

Our games against Chelsea will be absolutely crucial this season. I'd take 2 draws now as I still think we're more equipped to beat the lesser teams and Mourinho excels in the big games.

Looking at that first half, it's hard to believe Arsenal chose not bring Fabregas back. I know they have similar players, but he's special.
 
Shaelumstash said:
cookster said:
supercrystal7 said:
As Carragher is saying now Chelsea's problem was breaking down teams like Burnley. They did not lose the league against the other top 4. If I remember straight they took 16/18 against the other top 4. Also agree with Gary Neville that at the moment this is a two horse race and I favour Chelsea, but it will be close.

6 of the 16 were against us. We shouldn't have lost at the Bridge and had a weakened side at home, we'll take 4 points from them this season.

Our games against Chelsea will be absolutely crucial this season. I'd take 2 draws now as I still think we're more equipped to beat the lesser teams and Mourinho excels in the big games.

Looking at that first half, it's hard to believe Arsenal chose not bring Fabregas back. I know they have similar players, but he's special.

Lets see how he is after 38 games
 
Shaelumstash said:
cookster said:
supercrystal7 said:
As Carragher is saying now Chelsea's problem was breaking down teams like Burnley. They did not lose the league against the other top 4. If I remember straight they took 16/18 against the other top 4. Also agree with Gary Neville that at the moment this is a two horse race and I favour Chelsea, but it will be close.

6 of the 16 were against us. We shouldn't have lost at the Bridge and had a weakened side at home, we'll take 4 points from them this season.

Our games against Chelsea will be absolutely crucial this season. I'd take 2 draws now as I still think we're more equipped to beat the lesser teams and Mourinho excels in the big games.

Looking at that first half, it's hard to believe Arsenal chose not bring Fabregas back. I know they have similar players, but he's special.
Not really for me. Ozil has been a better player for most of his career and hit higher heights in my opinion. We will see what Ozil does this season, though his poor world cup is not a good sign. Fabregas failed in Barca, becuase Xavi and Iniesta until very recently were still better players. I think it shows just how good Xavi/Iniesta were.
 
supercrystal7 said:
City Glory While Others Fade said:
Shaelumstash said:
I agree Burnley look awful, but the tempo Chelsea are playing at, they're dragging them all over the place. They look like a carbon copy of 2005 Chelsea, they will run us very close.

I think their main weakness is if Fabregas or Costa gets injured, the players they can bring in are nowhere near that level. Guess we could say the same about Silva, but I think we've got more goals in us which usually has a big influence on winning the title.

I wouldn't judge Chelsea by that opposition...they had way too much space and played on the front foot for the whole of the first half...Burnley changed it a bit and pressed more second half but we're never comfortable enough on the ball to get deep enough to put decent crosses in..don't think I've seen so many bad first touches from a team. Wait till they play a decent pressing established PL team.
As Carragher is saying now Chelsea's problem was breaking down teams like Burnley. They did not lose the league against the other top 4. If I remember straight they took 16/18 against the other top 4. Also agree with Gary Neville that at the moment this is a two horse race and I favour Chelsea, but it will be close.
It wasn't breaking teams like Burnley down that was their issue it was against the established premier league clubs on the road that was their problem. The likes of Newcastle, Everton, Villa, WBA etc.

Against the bottom 3 (teams like Burnley) we did worse than Chelsea
 

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