Monaco - Post Match thread.

Still can't sleep. Still can't quite come to terms with how bad that performance was.

Honestly. In a season of poor performances that one hurts the most.
 
Mods - I'm properly not in the mood for this smug cnut tonight. He was a giant sized twat after the first leg, and I can't imagine he'll do anything other than WUM non-stop tonight. Ban him please

You were arrogant as fuck after first leg when I just came nicely to discuss and follow Man City's results and analysis of their fans.
We knocked you out by caming back from a 2 goal-deficit without Falcao and Glik, you should learn a lesson from that instead keep being a dush.

Yes, i'm a "smug ****" with people like you, cause karma is a bitch :)
 
Why on earth was Sagna at left back playing mbappe onside for the first goal when the cross came from our right?

Wow, looks like Sagna actually got found out on this forum at last. I've been saying for some time - the guy is wooden, has absolutely nothing to offer. Bang average geriatric defender, and Monaco 1st half especially - showed him to be exactly that. I'd say he was chasing shadows - but actually - he can't even do that.
 
Don't you think we should have been more solid in cm from the off? Monaco needed goals, we played into their hands.

I was amazed we didn't solidify the middle more. It's no coincidence that once kdb started to drop much, much deeper in the second half we completely controlled the game and it was our shit defending that undid us. Again.

Crazy tactics, an attacking line up in the first half that couldn't attack because it was way too top heavy.
 
No, I do think we will strengthen the defence this summer. We have to. It's been obvious for 2 or 3 years. And my post was actually defending Pep due to the limitations of squad he's forced to wrk with. If we want to be a top level European club we currently (this summer) need a minimum of:

1x Goalkeeper (arguably 2 - 1 first choice and 1 quality 'reserve' if Willy moves on)
3x full backs (1 for each side and another as cover)
2x centre backs (to replace Vinny and another as back up with Otamendi)
2x centre mids (Yaya getting older, ditto Silva, ditto Dinho)
2x forwards (cover for Jesus and Aguero as Jesus is too young to play 60+ games and Sergio gets injured a lot).

That's this summer if we want to give our manager the best chance to compete. Not to mention possible cover for players who may leave like Delph perhaps.

To wait years for Pep and then tie his hands behind his back like we have is verging on criminal.

We don't need that many players as you suggested but we still need a fair few to have a quality squad.

This summer
1x Keeper
2x Fb
1x cb
1x cm

Any change left over and I think another young winger/forward is needed. That will set us up nicely, if we buy young players. Our defence gets a lot of stick but our midfield isn't too healthy looking. Toure, silva and Fernandinho are getting on, gundogans fucked, Fernando and Delph not good enough, de bruynes hit and miss this season. I think buying one fresh face would do this summer for the midfield.

Garcia
Fernandinho
Toure
Gundogan
Silva
De bruyne

What do you change from that, do you get rid of toure or Fernandinho and get someone like weigl or Fabinho in. Fuck being txiki and pep this summer, they've got some decisions to make.
 
It's difficult to disagree with a word of that.

As I said in an earlier post I am beginnning to think (actually started to think it a while ago) that Pep has had the job at city sold to him under hugely false pretences.

To give a manager who is the best in the world, a job at the most scrutinised club on the planet, in the hardest league to win in the world, a squad that contains players like Kolorov,Sagna, clichy as regular starters, not to mention an aging Yaya, Silva, Kompany, as well as a limited Ottamendi, and an injury prone Aguero and say "go on mate, the entire world is watching, crack on" was negligent in the extreme.

Seriously, I feel sorry for him. He is clearly a decent and honourable man, but privately I would bet my life that he is fuming at the job he has been handed.

This 100%
 
This 100%
I agree with this but Pep knew what he was taking over and he will be given the chance to make changes this summer.

Peps hands have been tied as the deadwood like Yaya, Kolorov etc are all on silly contracts but some of those have run down and will be expiring.

There is no way regardless of tonight's results wed have beaten the likes of Bayern or Barca so I think we just need to concentrate on top 4 and keep the faith for next season.

Pep clearly has a plan and the club will provide him with the tools to implement it.
 
How is our squad superior to the dipppers? Or Spurs? Or any top six team? We have Gael fucking Clichy in defense.

We are the ONLY team in the top six to regularly field more than one player who was with the club in 2011 and some games we play 6 of them.

We need an overhaul this summer and one is surely coming.
Agreed, the squads are actually pretty close. Keeper both are shite. Defence both are shite. Midfield is probably about even. Attacking wise they seem to score just as many as we do.
 
Will never conquer Europe with De Bruyne, Sterling and (this version of) Aguero playing prominent roles in the team. And that's not to mention the backline and Fernandinho.

Aguero, for a world class forward, missed a ridiculous amount of chances. De Bruyne disappears up his own arse when he has to deal with aggression and athleticism. Sometimes his final ball is his saving grace but tonight it wasn't. And Sterling as good as he has been, also is far far too wasteful. It sounds harsh but to compete at the top table with the style of football we play, we need players in the final third who are as clinical as their counterparts at Barcelona, Real and Bayern. And we also need major work in the obvious areas.
Agree, I say this about KDB and Sterling but get shot down all the time. Aguero isn't as clinical as he used to be :(
 
No they out ran us because non of our supper star forwards care to work hard and bad team selection from pep didn't help the cause.

Yep and the added bonus of completely going against Pep's game plan (not pressurising Monaco) either. One collective fuck up.
 
The most annoying thing about the loss isn't that we were outplayed it was the fact that the players we know only showed up at around the 60min mark... and no it wasn't just that Monaco were tiring, our players are older and we didn't even attack them in the first half so how do you work that one out? We lost the game mentally before it even kicked off, all in that first half conceding 2 goals allowing them to overrun us with numbers(Stones left out numbered too many times by his team mates, that's what happens when you have fullbacks who can join in attacks), Pep tried to drill it into them but it obviously didn't work(you can't blame Pep he highlighted it in his press conference it wasn't overlooked he warned them all... Don't go into the game to hold onto what you've got).

We didn't lose it in the home leg either we went to Monaco with a lead, not even needing to win: To get a draw or concede less than 3 and get 1 goal ourselves is not a mountain, neither is scoring 2 goals (we actually should have on the chances we had despite every bad thing you can say about the overall performance) which would have killed the tie off since they weren't half as good as they were in the first tie either, we were just way further below where we were that night than them.
 
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this team need an overhaul.
too many old legs in the back and in the middle.
i still can't get over how on earth City have all 4 fullbacks which now already in their 30s.
very poor planning.
 
That first half, WTF.... I couldn't decide if we were shite or they were that good, it was like playing against 7 Thierry Henrys at times. They were berluddy good, fast as shit.

That was in the top 3 worst 1st halves of the season with Everton , Leicester away.

ALL of our major players were simply shite..... We came out as a team.....slow, lethargic, no enthusiasm, weren't we supposed to be on the front foot and get that crucial away goal?....I didn't get it, We'd slag off MP for exactly the same every other week. It's a quarter final of the CL ffs, I didn't think we'd get this from a Pep team.

KDB, Silva, Dinho.....all giving it away time after time, half a yard sloer to every other ball. The players you rely on for big games like this. We couldn't pass it 5 fkin yards. ....No sub to change it, for me , Yaya for Sterling on 30 mins, push KDB up.

Pep simply doesn't like an early sub, no subs at HT.....sheihks head.

Thankfully it wasn't Bravo in net as it would have been 3, 4 nil at HT and tie over.

Sterling, jeez, I hate to single him out but I think winston said it best , what a frustrating player. I think you can tell what game he's going to have in the first 15 mins of a game....either a world beater, unplayable on his day, or a donkey, their simply doesn't seem any in between with him. Tonight, pretty much a donkey.

2nd half, we at least made a game of it, had enough chances to actually win it BUT we didnt take our chances, the story of our season.

Aguero chance was probably a pen after he hit it, got clattered like Sevilla player did for there pen, butwe don't even attempt the "dark arts" so never an option the win at all costs approach.

THE most annoying part of the 2nd half was that winning goal freekick for them imo.

WHY OH WHY OH WHY do u set up a high line from a freekick??? The closer the defenders/attackers are to the keeper the best chance the keeper can come out n punch it or any contact on the keeper its a foul.

I'm in the fkin pub, and the first thing I yell out is " that line is too high"
Why would you give the crosser of the ball a massive gap to ping it into. It makes no sense.

If you sit deep it's an easier cross to deal with. The ball has to be in the air more, keeper has more time to deal with it.

The high line is a Pep thing and I don't get it......like the high pressing line when 2.1 v Chelsea and getting beat 3.2 at home.

It's fkin non sensical tactics for an apparent tactical master.

That's pretty much the ONLY FKIN ATTACK they basically had 2nd half and we laid it on a plate for them. We were battering them 2nd half till that freekick, Willy had nowt to do.

Good luck to them, no "dark arts" to win, they were impressive, I hope they win it. They are gonna get raided for 4, 5, 6, 7 players in the Summer.

What an academy, or scouting system they have. We will be wanking for our 100 million spent if Roberts, Diaz, Maffeo, Sancho etc etc make a sub appearance whilst these boys tonight are running rings around us for next to fuck all in front of 15k fans every other week.

It's now ALL about now lifting them up for the Liverpool game. It can still be a good season, but unless we win the league, highly unlikely now, a great season. ( assuming we can't catch Chelsea of course)

Top 3/4 and FA cup win will be a good season.

Let's deal in facts. We finished 4th last season and won the League cup, then spent 165 million to improve on that.

We've bent over backwards and parted our cheeks for Pep.

I haven't seen anything so far for the squad/money he's spent to separate him from Mancini/ MP.....so far.

Looks like it's gonna take another 150m for a new back 3/4 out of 5?

Thank god we're loaded, thank you Sheihk Mansour!
 
One more thing there's really no point in doing extra time in the modern game, especially for us how they decided there was only 3mins of stoppages I do not know. They wasted the majority of the time that was given and he blew his whistle with time still on the clock when we had the ball. Might not have made a difference but it's the principle of the matter. What's the point of it when the team with the advantage is allowed to do that and they never put enough time on to make a difference even if it's warranted?
 

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