Monaco - Post Match thread.

Bill said:
Absolutely this.
We have a 2 goal lead. We only need to keep the ball,play on the break.yaya Is perfect for that. He leaves him out.
After 10 mins it's obvious it's not working,he doesn't change it . half time comes and we are still in it. He doesn't change it. We Score and now lead,good time to shore it up,he does nothing.
Sorry but this was entirely down to Pep.
Ýeh the players were poor but only can sub
them.

Genius my arse.
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Nah , not having that at all.

You can throw tactics out of the window when Key players have a day off.
Fernandinho was dreadful as was De Bruyne and Silva went AWOL.
 
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Slept on it. Still fucking furious.

Complete bottle job by the players and shit tactics from Pep.

Scousers will rip us a new arsehole on Sunday.
 
Just got up, hung over and still fuming!!!!! The wide open space between defence and attack was appauling in the first half, midfield non existant. Yaya was a must for me to get hold and keep the ball. Pep got it very wrong first half!
 
toffee balls said:
Nah , not having that at all.

You can throw tactics out if the window when Key players have a day off.
Fernandinho was dreadful as was De Bruyne and Silva went AWOL.
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Leave them all on the pitch for as long as possible then, that should do the trick. Should have had yaya on for kdb frankly at any point of that game you choose to mention imo.
 
toffee balls said:
Nah , not having that at all.

You can throw tactics out if the window when Key players have a day off.
Fernandinho was dreadful as was De Bruyne and Silva went AWOL.
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Fernandinho awful?!? You try being the only defending midfield player with effectively 5 city attackers in front of you away from home and being peppered by fast skilful midfielders. He needed help and was left on his own.
 
pep needs to learn pragmatism, there was no need to fight fire with fire when you have a 2 goal lead.

to score 6 over 2 legs and still lose tells you all you need to know

not to diss monaco in any way, they are a very good team with exciting players going forward, but they conceded 6 also

that first half is, well the worst i've witnessed since the takeover, did we even get in their area?
 
kevin horlocks wand said:
Fernandinho awful?!? You try being the only defending midfield player with effectively 5 city attackers in front of you away from home and being peppered by fast skilful midfielders. He needed help and was left on his own.
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He could not stay on his feet first half.

He does have a tendency to fluff his lines in the very big games.
 
kenzie115 said:
The whole world watched PSG try to defend a 4 goal lead last week and fail, but Pep thought we could go to the home of the top scoring side in Europe and defend a 2 goal lead?

We can't defend. It's very simple. Nothing over the course of the last 7 months has indicated that we are any good at shutting up shop. The only time we ever look good is when we attack the opposition. This in itself forces them back and limits their goalscoring opportunities.

We made the mistake of trying to defend and quickly ended up behind in the tie. Monaco then made the same mistake, they sat back and we went ahead again. How stupid do you have to be to not see that we should have kept attacking them? But no, we sat off again and got what we deserved for such an incompetent tactical display.
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Defend the lead, Pep thought that we could? Was this the same Pep who said we couldn't do that, and that we must score? We weren't set-up for that and a lot of posters on here are saying that's what we should have been set-up for! Moanaco were superb in the first half we couldn't get the ball and when we did we were sloppy. Pep played KDB deeper in second half and we forced Monaco back and created a number of gilt-edged chances, that we failed to convert it should have been 8-6 for us at least. Yes it was poor defending for their third, Pep was fuming about that on the touchline an indication that the players had failed to carry out instructions? Oh well! From a personal point of view Id rather get knocked out playing in the style that we do than the Kick and Rush Champions. Good luck to Monaco another team that plays in a style that should be applauded
 
Don't know why we didn't just bottle up at the back and invite pressure. Surely with tank-like, unassailable defenders like Gael Clichy, Alex Kolarov, Nicolas Otamendi and Bacary Sagna on the squad, and with world class shot stopper Willy Caballero between the sticks, there was no way a team who doesn't score often like Monaco would get two.
 
toffee balls said:
Nah , not having that at all.

You can throw tactics out of the window when Key players have a day off.
Fernandinho was dreadful as was De Bruyne and Silva went AWOL.
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We had no hub. We were there for the taking. We had the 2 goal lead and there was simply no need to be that wide open.

And if you say this player or that player was out of sorts why the fuck not take them off.

Pep got this badly wrong.
 
Whatever happen in that first half was the worst we have ever been under Pep. No leaders in that team to lead us when we needed and to organise the team when needed this has killed us all season long under Pep. Kompany is a huge huge loss to this team for the leadership and Joe Hart too.

Second half we were better granted but we fucked up at home to concede 3 goals at home is a joke. The same yesterday some of the mistakes are getting to be a joke. Pep will sort it his way he will make more changes were in transition but just some things we should be doing better. He will be given time to sort it out I would expect let him buy the players he needs. Rome wasnt built in a day as they say. This time next season under Pep we will be a lot better.
 
toffee balls said:
Nah , not having that at all.

You can throw tactics out of the window when Key players have a day off.
Fernandinho was dreadful as was De Bruyne and Silva went AWOL.
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We were pushed back in the first half and even though we had marginally greater possession most of it was in our own half. Sane and Sterling forced to come back leaving Aguero isolated with two defenders doubling up. However, this was the necessary scenario for Monaco. If they were gonna succeed they had to start like a house on fire, and from our initial set up, the general tactics and the performances of some of our players it all conspired to hand Monaco the advantage they were hoping for. At 70 mins and the tie in our pocket it was time to shut up shop - difficult for us to do against the softest opposition! Fernando should have come on, but within the game of football a blind man can see what teams are upto, and from the minute Monaco regained the tie they resort to falling over with the slightest contact, taking minutes to make a sub, none of which seems to get added on these days, and all in all we chucked it!
 
Gutted. To throw away a 2 goal lead in the manner they did is pathetic. Failure to change things earlier than he did is entirely on Pep as is the bizarre decision to drop yaya, zab and otamendi.
 
Pep's had an absolute mare here and cost us big time. He left our midfield so open, and once again he was far too slow to react.

Silva, De Bruyne, Kolarov, Aguero, Fernandinho, Clichy and Sagna are not good enough for a team with CL ambitions.
 
Bill said:
We had no hub. We were there for the taking. We had the 2 goal lead and there was simply no need to be that wide open.

And if you say this player or that player was out of sorts why the fuck not take them off.

Pep got this badly wrong.
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Spot on Bill.

Lets not sugar coat last night. Pep got it spectacularly wrong with that selection.

That first 45 mins was one of the worst ive watched as we might as well have stayed in the changing rooms and whilst we did much better 2nd half, yet again key players cant hit a barn door and the one time we need to defend we go missing in action yet again.

Congrats to Monaco as they has some great players and frankly, they wanted it far more than we did last night which is damning on everyone connected with the club last night im afraid.
 
Bill said:
We had no hub. We were there for the taking. We had the 2 goal lead and there was simply no need to be that wide open.

And if you say this player or that player was out of sorts why the fuck not take them off.

Pep got this badly wrong.
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He should have hooked De Bruyne after 20 mins
 
Made to look rather ordinary by a younger, faster team who were more comfortable on the ball. That was us against Dortmund in 2012, and that was us against Monaco in 2017.
 
br88 said:
What are you talking about....we absolutely dominated them in the second half.
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We were certainly better in the second half
We had the same amount of goals in the second half
The first half we were over run and couldn't respond
 
93Aguero20 said:
Pep's had an absolute mare here and cost us big time. He left our midfield so open, and once again he was far too slow to react.

Silva, De Bruyne, Kolarov, Aguero, Fernandinho, Clichy and Sagna are not good enough for a team with CL ambitions.
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Silva? Aguero? De Bruyne fernadinho are definitely good enough. The other 3 I agree with you but to be fair clichy and sagna are well past their best
 
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