Morality

[samharris]

To me, the "mind" is the sum of the parts of the brain. We have the most powerful brains of all animals and i see the "mind" or "consciousness" as a result of that power.Nothing more.

so what is the point of being intelligent ?? Animals are far behind us in intelligence yet they survive,they breed,they feed and they die.

There is no "point" in the way you are thinking. But being "intelligent" has seen a handful of us turn into 7 billion whilst thousands of animal species have become extinct during that time period.

strangely ironic as our intelligence will be our downfall eventually...

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

so what is the point of being intelligent ?? Animals are far behind us in intelligence yet they survive,they breed,they feed and they die.

There is no "point" in the way you are thinking. But being "intelligent" has seen a handful of us turn into 7 billion whilst thousands of animal species have become extinct during that time period.

strangely ironic as our intelligence will be our downfall eventually...

the decisions we make may or may not be our downfall. Who is to say decisions won't be made to find a new environment for us to survive on and provide a means for us to travel to this new environment before the natural resources or climate of this environment become too hostile for life to survive? It's 50/50

 

[SWP's back]

so what is the point of being intelligent ?? Animals are far behind us in intelligence yet they survive,they breed,they feed and they die.

There is no "point" in the way you are thinking. But being "intelligent" has seen a handful of us turn into 7 billion whilst thousands of animal species have become extinct during that time period.

strangely ironic as our intelligence will be our downfall eventually...

And also our saviour I would guess.

 

[samharris]

There is no "point" in the way you are thinking. But being "intelligent" has seen a handful of us turn into 7 billion whilst thousands of animal species have become extinct during that time period.

strangely ironic as our intelligence will be our downfall eventually...

the decisions we make may or may not be our downfall. Who is to say decisions won't be made to find a new environment for us to survive on and provide a means for us to travel to this new environment before the natural resources or climate of this environment become too hostile for life to survive? It's 50/50

Are you sure that we have the time ?? ?? I watched a programme last night about a space probe on its way to Pluto,it was launched in 2006. it is travelling at 35,000 miles per hour and will not get there until july 2015 (9yrs).. the nearest planet to us (outside our solar system) is over 100 years travel away at that speed and we have no idea whatsoever if it could even sustain life..

when our time is up here its up for everybody.

 

[pominoz]

strangely ironic as our intelligence will be our downfall eventually...

the decisions we make may or may not be our downfall. Who is to say decisions won't be made to find a new environment for us to survive on and provide a means for us to travel to this new environment before the natural resources or climate of this environment become too hostile for life to survive? It's 50/50

Are you sure that we have the time ?? ?? I watched a programme last night about a space probe on its way to Pluto,it was launched in 2006. it is travelling at 35,000 miles per hour and will not get there until july 2015 (9yrs).. the nearest planet to us (outside our solar system) is over 100 years travel away at that speed and we have no idea whatsoever if it could even sustain life..

when our time is up here its up for everybody.

Check this out, Voyager 1 has been travelling at 38,000 miles an hour for 35 years and is still in our solar system.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/6/29/going-going-still-going-voyager-1-at-solar-system-s-edge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_arti ... tem-s-edge</a>

 

[Skashion]

And also our saviour I would guess.

Our saviour I think, within a century of having nuclear fusion we should be safe from self-annihilation, leaving only a gamma ray burst or the like to wipe us out.

 

[SWP's back]

strangely ironic as our intelligence will be our downfall eventually...

the decisions we make may or may not be our downfall. Who is to say decisions won't be made to find a new environment for us to survive on and provide a means for us to travel to this new environment before the natural resources or climate of this environment become too hostile for life to survive? It's 50/50

Are you sure that we have the time ?? ?? I watched a programme last night about a space probe on its way to Pluto,it was launched in 2006. it is travelling at 35,000 miles per hour and will not get there until july 2015 (9yrs).. the nearest planet to us (outside our solar system) is over 100 years travel away at that speed and we have no idea whatsoever if it could even sustain life..

when our time is up here its up for everybody.

35,000 miles an hour eh? 150 years ago, the fastest man had travelled was less than 35 miles an hour.

Give us another thousand years and see how fast we can go then.

 

[samharris]

the decisions we make may or may not be our downfall. Who is to say decisions won't be made to find a new environment for us to survive on and provide a means for us to travel to this new environment before the natural resources or climate of this environment become too hostile for life to survive? It's 50/50

Are you sure that we have the time ?? ?? I watched a programme last night about a space probe on its way to Pluto,it was launched in 2006. it is travelling at 35,000 miles per hour and will not get there until july 2015 (9yrs).. the nearest planet to us (outside our solar system) is over 100 years travel away at that speed and we have no idea whatsoever if it could even sustain life..

when our time is up here its up for everybody.

Check this out, Voyager 1 has been travelling at 38,000 miles an hour for 35 years and is still in our solar system.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_articles/2013/6/29/going-going-still-going-voyager-1-at-solar-system-s-edge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.richarddawkins.net/news_arti ... tem-s-edge</a>

Excactly mate..Its not the distances.. its the time it takes..

 

[pominoz]

the decisions we make may or may not be our downfall. Who is to say decisions won't be made to find a new environment for us to survive on and provide a means for us to travel to this new environment before the natural resources or climate of this environment become too hostile for life to survive? It's 50/50

Are you sure that we have the time ?? ?? I watched a programme last night about a space probe on its way to Pluto,it was launched in 2006. it is travelling at 35,000 miles per hour and will not get there until july 2015 (9yrs).. the nearest planet to us (outside our solar system) is over 100 years travel away at that speed and we have no idea whatsoever if it could even sustain life..

when our time is up here its up for everybody.

35,000 miles an hour eh? 150 years ago, the fastest man had travelled was less than 35 miles an hour.

Give us another thousand years and see how fast we can go then.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5zSWQwpjPg[/youtube]

 

[Esteban de la Sexface]

the decisions we make may or may not be our downfall. Who is to say decisions won't be made to find a new environment for us to survive on and provide a means for us to travel to this new environment before the natural resources or climate of this environment become too hostile for life to survive? It's 50/50

Are you sure that we have the time ?? ?? I watched a programme last night about a space probe on its way to Pluto,it was launched in 2006. it is travelling at 35,000 miles per hour and will not get there until july 2015 (9yrs).. the nearest planet to us (outside our solar system) is over 100 years travel away at that speed and we have no idea whatsoever if it could even sustain life..

when our time is up here its up for everybody.

35,000 miles an hour eh? 150 years ago, the fastest man had travelled was less than 35 miles an hour.

Give us another thousand years and see how fast we can go then.

Exactly, you cannot base decisions made in the future from limitations that exist today. Who is to say a decision to leave the planet will be necessary. A form of renewable, sustainable energy might make fossil fuels redundant, conversely we could get smashed by a big fucking rock. Who knows. It's 50/50