Morgan Gibbs-White

You say great numbers but how many goals/assists.

Let's compare him to someone nobody would want us to buy. Someone like Iwobi or Maddison let's say
His underlying data is very strong. 12 goals and assists isn’t too bad either - but he does far more for the team than that.
 
Yet we've the likes of Doku on the team who if anyone saw him playing for another Premier League team nobody would be wanting him.

At least this lad is doing something in the league

That just says how bad the recruitment has been these past windows. We were looking at Barcola at the same time as we were looking at Doku and we chose Doku.
 
That just says how bad the recruitment has been these past windows. We were looking at Barcola at the same time as we were looking at Doku and we chose Doku.
Don’t think Doku has been a bad signing at all and has a bright future here. Barcola could’ve easily been not as good here against better quality opposition. Olise was the real one we missed out upon.
 
Yet we've the likes of Doku on the team who if anyone saw him playing for another Premier League team nobody would be wanting him.

At least this lad is doing something in the league
yet Doku has 2 less goals and 3 less assists than him having played 5 less games and been in and out through injury in a team that spent 3 momths playing inconsistant football and unlike forest we play weekly against teams that sit and defend deep in numbers.

He really is being overhyped for what is yes his best season to date in 6 years as a premier league regular.
 
yet Doku has 2 less goals and 3 less assists than him having played 5 less games and been in and out through injury in a team that spent 3 momths playing inconsistant football and unlike forest we play weekly against teams that sit and defend deep in numbers.

He really is being overhyped for what is yes his best season to date in 6 years as a premier league regular.
That’s a different point entirely. I don’t see the criticism for a young player in his second season in a very dysfunctional team who is always in 2v1/3v1 situations. Give him proper full-backs (Cambiaso) etc and he’ll thrive.
 
That’s a different point entirely. I don’t see the criticism for a young player in his second season in a very dysfunctional team who is always in 2v1/3v1 situations. Give him proper full-backs (Cambiaso) etc and he’ll thrive.

You are polishing a turd here. Chill.

MGW simply isn't good enough for Manchester City.
 
My lad played Sunday League with him

A proper smug bastard (I suppose you need that if you want to succeed at the top level) but ran rings round everybody on the pitch
 
Just ask yourself if Gibbs White, would start for the elite European teams. If he doesn’t we shouldn’t be no where near him. Wirtz starts for everyone in Europe. Camavinga another who would. Need to stop shopping for mediocre English players and start signing the elite young players.

He wouldn't start for Liverpool. He wouldn't start ahead of Cole Palmer for Chelsea. He wouldn't start above Odegaard for Arsenal. He wouldn't start above Sandro Tonali or Guimaraes for Newcastle, he wouldn't start above Bruno for United. He also wouldn't start ahead of Kulusevski for Spurs.

We need a lot better than this guy.
 
You are polishing a turd here. Chill.

MGW simply isn't good enough for Manchester City.
Each to their own anyway. Personally think Doku has done well and will get much better. Also think MGW could do a good job as an #8 where we’ve lacked energy, technicality, ability to pick out Haaland and Marmoush. Yes, I wouldn’t pay £100 million for him - but put him at £70m or so and it’s not bad. Think people expect us to sign Pedri and Barella every window
 
That’s a different point entirely. I don’t see the criticism for a young player in his second season in a very dysfunctional team who is always in 2v1/3v1 situations. Give him proper full-backs (Cambiaso) etc and he’ll thrive.
Not sure if you are defendingMGW or Doku here? I was defening Jeremy and pointng out you cannot use Doku in this conversation to say we need MGW because on the whole he has performed as well as MGW in more difficult circumstances than the forest team have had
 
He wouldn't start for Liverpool. He wouldn't start ahead of Cole Palmer for Chelsea. He wouldn't start above Odegaard for Arsenal. He wouldn't start above Sandro Tonali or Guimaraes for Newcastle, he wouldn't start above Bruno for United. He also wouldn't start ahead of Kulusevski for Spurs.

We need a lot better than this guy.
Would start above Szobodzlai for Liverpool.
 
Each to their own anyway. Personally think Doku has done well and will get much better. Also think MGW could do a good job as an #8 where we’ve lacked energy, technicality, ability to pick out Haaland and Marmoush. Yes, I wouldn’t pay £100 million for him - but put him at £70m or so and it’s not bad. Think people expect us to sign Pedri and Barella every window

Do you want us to compete with the likes of PSG or not?

If you do, these type of signings will push us even further away from competing with the European elite.
 
Each to their own anyway. Personally think Doku has done well and will get much better. Also think MGW could do a good job as an #8 where we’ve lacked energy, technicality, ability to pick out Haaland and Marmoush. Yes, I wouldn’t pay £100 million for him - but put him at £70m or so and it’s not bad. Think people expect us to sign Pedri and Barella every window
I don't understand this argument at all.

Where is the middle ground between Barella or Pedri to Gibbs White?

It's like the bollocks of not signing Bellingham or Rice so next best was fucking Nunes
 
Not sure if you are defendingMGW or Doku here? I was defening Jeremy and pointng out you cannot use Doku in this conversation to say we need MGW because on the whole he has performed as well as MGW in more difficult circumstances than the forest team have had
Yeah I was saying the points made about Doku were unfair imo and didn’t think criticising the recruitment decision was valid. I think he’s been pretty good on the whole while playing in a dysfunctional team.
 
He wouldn't start for Liverpool. He wouldn't start ahead of Cole Palmer for Chelsea. He wouldn't start above Odegaard for Arsenal. He wouldn't start above Sandro Tonali or Guimaraes for Newcastle, he wouldn't start above Bruno for United. He also wouldn't start ahead of Kulusevski for Spurs.

We need a lot better than this guy.
or Murphy for newcastle, Iwobi for fulham or Kluivert and Damsgard for brentford
 
Do you want us to compete with the likes of PSG or not?

If you do, these type of signings will push us even further away from competing with the European elite.
In your opinion anyway. He wouldn’t be my first choice but certainly think he could do a very good job here as a number 8. I’d also bring in a natural #10 aswell.
 

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