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Morgan Gibbs-White
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LOL, El-Diablo—you’re back! I thought you blocked me after our last encounter. Good to see you’re still showing me some love, buddy!His name is bullshit
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This thread was crying out for another debate trying to work out how many months Grealish was good for.
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I agree with the thrust of what you’re saying.
If you’re looking for someone like the old KDB who’s better than what PSG or Real Madrid have, he isn’t at that level. He might get there, but no guarantees, and not if he’s only used as a squad player.
His long range passing really is exceptional though - that’s where there’s a similarity with KDB.
Our midfielders, as I’m sure you know, don’t really need that as their main asset.
Kalvin Phillips main asset was his accurate long diagonal passing range.
Our midfielders need to be technical, quick in the mind, who rarely lose the ball.
Flicks or tricks need to always pay off. You’ll know full well MGW loses the ball a lot and loves trying fancy flicks that rarely pay off.
His work rate will be welcomed but for me it’s going to be an error by us to waste a huge chunk of our rebuild money on someone who isn’t world class.
If he was 22 and 50m I’d be in.
25 and possibly 85m+… god no.
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Our midfielders, as I’m sure you know, don’t really need that as their main asset.
Kalvin Phillips main asset was his accurate long diagonal passing range.
Our midfielders need to be technical, quick in the mind, who rarely lose the ball.
Flicks or tricks need to always pay off. You’ll know full well MGW loses the ball a lot and loves trying fancy flicks that rarely pay off.
His work rate will be welcomed but for me it’s going to be an error by us to waste a huge chunk of our rebuild money on someone who isn’t world class.
If he was 22 and 50m I’d be in.
25 and possibly 85m+… god no.
It’ll be interesting to see if Forest’s and City’s interests align here. From our POV
- if he stays, great
- if we get £80m+, fine - it’ll be exciting to see how we spend the money
- any less than £80m - no thanks
Marinakis rarely sells low, so it’s very possible Forest price him too high for City’s taste
he ain't coming to replace kdb tho, don't put him in the same sentence with kdb, mateI agree with the thrust of what you’re saying.
If you’re looking for someone like the old KDB who’s better than what PSG or Real Madrid have, he isn’t at that level. He might get there, but no guarantees, and not if he’s only used as a squad player.
His long range passing really is exceptional though - that’s where there’s a similarity with KDB.
A winger or two that can actually score??We need 2 midfielders 2 full backs done.
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Don't need them ,don't have room in the squad for them.So no not priorities.A winger or two that can actually score??
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This is the only thing I'm going to say about Jack Grealish on this thread.
Personally I think he was over priced when we signed him, As its always the way when it comes to signing an English player. Anyway, People have short memories when it comes to Jack, He was fucking outstanding in our Treble winning season especially in Europe! Himself and Bernie occupied the wide areas and were both incredible, Grealish played a huge part in our club winning the Treble and for that alone £100m was a fucking bargain...
For what it's worth, Morgan Gibbs-Shite isn't good enough to clean Jack's boots ffs
"Back to the Gibbs-White Thread".
Personally I think he was over priced when we signed him, As its always the way when it comes to signing an English player. Anyway, People have short memories when it comes to Jack, He was fucking outstanding in our Treble winning season especially in Europe! Himself and Bernie occupied the wide areas and were both incredible, Grealish played a huge part in our club winning the Treble and for that alone £100m was a fucking bargain...
For what it's worth, Morgan Gibbs-Shite isn't good enough to clean Jack's boots ffs
"Back to the Gibbs-White Thread".
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So it’s $50m plus Kalvin-Phillips ;)It’ll be interesting to see if Forest’s and City’s interests align here. From our POV
- if he stays, great
- if we get £80m+, fine - it’ll be exciting to see how we spend the money
- any less than £80m - no thanks
Marinakis rarely sells low, so it’s very possible Forest price him too high for City’s taste
Having a gibbs white type midfielder would be fine if we were getting maximum return in terms of G and A from our wingers, he is a jordan henderson type midfielder(maybe more attacking) when at his peak for the dippers. It doesnt feel like its the type we need but maybe we are changing tactics completely. I am not happy with it but wont write him off if it happens and its looking like there is every chance.
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Afternoon, Morgan.I agree with the thrust of what you’re saying.
If you’re looking for someone like the old KDB who’s better than what PSG or Real Madrid have, he isn’t at that level. He might get there, but no guarantees, and not if he’s only used as a squad player.
His long range passing really is exceptional though - that’s where there’s a similarity with KDB.
Unfortunately, the more I watch him recently, the less I like the look of him.
Hoping it doesnt happen, even if Wirtz doesnt happen.
Lets get Reijnders now to replace KdB and Gundogan as a 8/10, Wharton as a 6/8 for Kova/Bernie (maybe even next year) and keep McAtee as a forward.
Thats my preference.
Hoping it doesnt happen, even if Wirtz doesnt happen.
Lets get Reijnders now to replace KdB and Gundogan as a 8/10, Wharton as a 6/8 for Kova/Bernie (maybe even next year) and keep McAtee as a forward.
Thats my preference.
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I honestly don’t think he’ll be an upgrade on just playing Grealish centrally
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Kelvin Phillips has, or 'had' all 3 of those.....no offence, but you're talking nonsense ;)
Haha
So it’s $50m plus Kalvin-Phillips ;)
If we're including Phillips, I think $150m would be fair for Forest....
The way Pep's looking at it, Haaland will cover roughly 35 goals when fully fit. Marmoush and Foden 20 each if they're operating consistently over the course of the season. Bobb, Savinho, and Doku can reach 5-10 goals each. Rodri and Kovacic, and even Gvardiol, are capable of scoring between 7-10 goals each. That's around 100 goals in total.Having a gibbs white type midfielder would be fine if we were getting maximum return in terms of G and A from our wingers, he is a jordan henderson type midfielder(maybe more attacking) when at his peak for the dippers. It doesnt feel like its the type we need but maybe we are changing tactics completely. I am not happy with it but wont write him off if it happens and its looking like there is every chance.
Maybe Pep thinks adding more workhorse legs in midfield will allow Marmoush, Foden, Haaland, etc. to score more often.
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WesthoughtonJohn
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Take you self outside and flagellate yourself!!!!Having a gibbs white type midfielder would be fine if we were getting maximum return in terms of G and A from our wingers, he is a jordan henderson type midfielder(maybe more attacking) when at his peak for the dippers. It doesnt feel like its the type we need but maybe we are changing tactics completely. I am not happy with it but wont write him off if it happens and its looking like there is every chance.
You compared a potential signing (hope not but that's a different conversation) to one of them - how could you on this forum??????
01cravend
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Good passer, capable aerially despite his height, Bernardo level grafter, has goals and assists in his game.
You seen our midfield and our press this season? We need a player like this lad. We need to be hard to play through again. Rodri will help but who are the ones pressing in front of him? Marmoush, Doku is decent at it when in the mood and Silva(if he stays) that's about it.
You seen our midfield and our press this season? We need a player like this lad. We need to be hard to play through again. Rodri will help but who are the ones pressing in front of him? Marmoush, Doku is decent at it when in the mood and Silva(if he stays) that's about it.
I have been seeing so many articles and even posts about how we are really getting 2 midfielders to replace Kev. One the energy guy (i.e. MGW) and another the creative type (i.e. Wirtz)....
This doesn't make sense to me. We have so many players as is:
Rodri, Gonzalez, Gundogan, Kovacic, Bernado, Foden, Marmoush, Savio, Doku, Bobb, Echeveri, Maca
That's 12 names for a maximum of 5 positions. And this doesn't include the likes of Rico or Nico who also can play in one of those positions.
That's 14 names. Even if 2 or 3 left, we'd still have 10 to 12 names still here. We really don't need another 'good' player. We have enough of those. We need an exceptional player who'd be a guaranteed starter and improve the first 11. MGW does not fit that profile. He is more in the mold of a Nico G, Kova, current Gundo and Bernado, ( i.e. a good role player).
IMHO, he does not have a higher ceiling than Bobb, Echeveri, NOR or even Rico.. its debatable that he is overall better currently... And even if he is, the ceiling isn't there. Ao why even entertain this?
The mantra is always 'Trust the process.' but by all indications, this looks like an average idea at best and a terrible one at worst.
I know we need homegrown if the bulk are on the way out.... But this isn't it. I'd rather focus on getting a backup Goalie, and potentially a full sck who are homegrown over getting a role player in the area that's the engine of our machine.
This doesn't make sense to me. We have so many players as is:
Rodri, Gonzalez, Gundogan, Kovacic, Bernado, Foden, Marmoush, Savio, Doku, Bobb, Echeveri, Maca
That's 12 names for a maximum of 5 positions. And this doesn't include the likes of Rico or Nico who also can play in one of those positions.
That's 14 names. Even if 2 or 3 left, we'd still have 10 to 12 names still here. We really don't need another 'good' player. We have enough of those. We need an exceptional player who'd be a guaranteed starter and improve the first 11. MGW does not fit that profile. He is more in the mold of a Nico G, Kova, current Gundo and Bernado, ( i.e. a good role player).
IMHO, he does not have a higher ceiling than Bobb, Echeveri, NOR or even Rico.. its debatable that he is overall better currently... And even if he is, the ceiling isn't there. Ao why even entertain this?
The mantra is always 'Trust the process.' but by all indications, this looks like an average idea at best and a terrible one at worst.
I know we need homegrown if the bulk are on the way out.... But this isn't it. I'd rather focus on getting a backup Goalie, and potentially a full sck who are homegrown over getting a role player in the area that's the engine of our machine.