Mourhino is on his way to City.....

Fergie would eat Pellegrini alive.

Mancini for all his faults is the type of manager that worries Fergie on and off the field.

Fergie thinks to himself he is the better manager which by and large he is and the main reason for the reverse in fortunes despite RVP and greater depth with less injuries than last year but he loses his cool with RM.

Mancini has him second guessing , Fergie thinks he is easy to figure out yet he gets the better of him in the war of words which is remarkable really givne his rhetoric or lack of it come conference time.

Yes Manure have won it for sure and they take there foot off the petal last season , the reverse this season despite a bigger gap.

Fergie made some glaring mistakes in the run last season as he did again on Tuesday.

He will be second guessing himself again and RM will be loving it.

Fergie wouldn't lose his cool v Pellegrini.

Why would we do better in Europe with Pellegrini in charge?

If the owners think Pep , Jose and or Klopp or someone else are better fits then wait till one is available to make the move and in the meantime if RM improves his fortunes in Europe all well and good and if not all the more reason to move on.
 
Zin 'messiah' Zimmer said:
Pellegrini won't be our next manager, remember this post!!!!!!

It's hardly noteworthy, I think about a hundred people have said it before you in this thread ... :)
 
BillyShears said:
strongbowholic said:
A repeat of this season though would more than likely see him gone and whilst I would be saddened, I'd expect and undestand that decision, as I imagine Mancini would.

Yes well I guess that's one thing we agree upon.

It's funny how Mourinho causes so many knickers to get twisted. The guy is the current best manager in the world, so to me it seems ridiculous that his name wouldn't be talked about as a potential successor to Roberto. Again there's this bizarre notion that because they interviewed him for the Barca job but didn't give it to him, that they'd never employ him again at another club. Much like any other part of a football club, just because person A isn't suited to situation A, doesn't mean person A isn't suited to situation B.

What Petrusha, and to a lesser degree Bob, has thrown back into the debate is the significance of Begiristain and his role as Director of Football in any decision about the managerial situation. A point I've touched upon a few times now was Mancini's wierd comment about how he didn't report into him, or Soriano, "only Khaldoon and Mansour".

So are we having a proper Director of Football with ultimate responsibility for results, or are we having some wierd hybrid model? The other elephant in the room was the leak from one of our coaches a month or two ago that Begeristain was insttructing them all that we were going to have a club formation of 4-3-3.

It feels like the club is at something of a crossroads. Mancini seems to believe that his work is independant of the D of F, whereas I'm inclined to believe we wouldn't have employed a big hitter like this without expecting him to have huge input into the first team.

Pellegrini? I don't know enough about him to get into detail about whether he's the right or the wrong man. But our only basis for hypothesising is one single leak in Chile, and Duncan Castle's story which also mentioned Klopp. I get the feeling that we are putting our various feelers and he's just one. That's what any sensible business person would do whilst making contingiency plans.
 
mancity1 said:
Fergie would eat Pellegrini alive.

I'm not sure being as big a **** as Slur Alex is something we should aspire to our next manager being.

Mancini for all his faults is the type of manager that worries Fergie on and off the field.

I suspect our squad and our owners worry him more. Long terms whether Mancini's around for two years five years or ten the real fear for the rags is that we aren't going away ... not Mancini.

Fergie thinks to himself he is the better manager which by and large he is and the main reason for the reverse in fortunes despite RVP and greater depth with less injuries than last year but he loses his cool with RM.

Mancini has him second guessing , Fergie thinks he is easy to figure out yet he gets the better of him in the war of words which is remarkable really givne his rhetoric or lack of it come conference time.

Not sure what this actually means tbh. "Mind Games" are viciously overrated.

Yes Manure have won it for sure and they take there foot off the petal last season , the reverse this season despite a bigger gap.

Fergie made some glaring mistakes in the run last season as he did again on Tuesday.

He will be second guessing himself again and RM will be loving it.

I reckon Slur Alex is loving how far ahead he is mate. I'm not sure you come to the conclusion Mancini can be loving anything about the way this season has panned out, but especially not where we are in comparison to the rags.

Fergie wouldn't lose his cool v Pellegrini.

Again, who cares. That's about as irrelevant as it gets IMO.

Why would we do better in Europe with Pellegrini in charge?

You'd have to think if Pellegrini was approached about the job it'd be because someone somewhere thinks he could do well at City.

If the owners think Pep , Jose and or Klopp or someone else are better fits then wait till one is available to make the move and in the meantime if RM improves his fortunes in Europe all well and good and if not all the more reason to move on.

I'm sure that's exactly what the owners and the board are going to do. In terms of managers being available, it's a bit like players, if you've got the money, you can make the manager available. The big question is does that manager want to come to City ...
 
Didsbury Dave said:
What Petrusha, and to a lesser degree Bob, has thrown back into the debate is the significance of Begiristain and his role as Director of Football in any decision about the managerial situation. A point I've touched upon a few times now was Mancini's wierd comment about how he didn't report into him, or Soriano, "only Khaldoon and Mansour".

Mancini's comments are at total odds with what a DoF actually does. If the owners have put a structure in place where he reports only to Khaldoun and Mansour, then I find it hard to understand why Txiki would take the job. I think Petrusha's post is a pretty good account of what types of decisions are expected to be made by a DoF. There's also the Barca document i posted a link too which clearly defined the DoF's role, certainly at Barca, although it's fair to say that there's nothing to suggest we will have an identikit philosophy.
 
A manager going into meltdown on match day is the first sign the club is on the edge BS.

You know my thoughts on RM a good manager , not a great one and never will be.

If we have a better alternative to challenge both home and abroad with minimum risk and downside of course we need to do due diligence.

I don't see one available that is all.

Pellegrini is not the short term answer just because RM has failed in the Chumps League this year and he would be a short term proposition.

Has done what he set out to do , outside getting into the last 16 in Europe this year.

Of course he wouldn't be happy being twelve points behind Manure but so what it is what it is , Manure have drawn 2 and lost three and on track for a record haul.
 
mancity1 said:
You know my thoughts on RM a good manager , not a great one and never will be.

If we have a better alternative to challenge both home and abroad with minimum risk and downside of course we need to do due diligence.

I don't see one available that is all.

That's the nub of it for me MC1. You think I'm unfair on Mancini and yet it seems we actually have an identical view of him. The question about alternatives isn't one we'll answer, but one Txiki, Khaldoun, etc will answer. Speculating about names being linked with us is pretty much par for the course and I see no problem with it.
 
can we adjoin this until the end of the season please?doing my head in slagging the man who has given us so much.when we get to the end of the season and see where we finish we can go again as much as you like
 
karen7 said:
can we adjoin this until the end of the season please?doing my head in slagging the man who has given us so much.when we get to the end of the season and see where we finish we can go again as much as you like

Don't open the thread and your head won't be done in. It really isn't that difficult a concept to grasp yet so many are currently struggling with it. It's like going to a metal gig and then complaining about the noise!
 

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