Mourhino is on his way to City.....

[Zin 'messiah' Zimmer]

Pellegrini won't be our next manager, remember this post!!!!!!

It's hardly noteworthy, I think about a hundred people have said it before you in this thread ... :)

It wasn't meant as some huge statement, was actually sarcasm pal- the rest of the quote would highlight this (:

 

[Anonymous]

A repeat of this season though would more than likely see him gone and whilst I would be saddened, I'd expect and undestand that decision, as I imagine Mancini would.

Yes well I guess that's one thing we agree upon.

It's funny how Mourinho causes so many knickers to get twisted. The guy is the current best manager in the world, so to me it seems ridiculous that his name wouldn't be talked about as a potential successor to Roberto. Again there's this bizarre notion that because they interviewed him for the Barca job but didn't give it to him, that they'd never employ him again at another club. Much like any other part of a football club, just because person A isn't suited to situation A, doesn't mean person A isn't suited to situation B.

What Petrusha, and to a lesser degree Bob, has thrown back into the debate is the significance of Begiristain and his role as Director of Football in any decision about the managerial situation. A point I've touched upon a few times now was Mancini's wierd comment about how he didn't report into him, or Soriano, "only Khaldoon and Mansour".

So are we having a proper Director of Football with ultimate responsibility for results, or are we having some wierd hybrid model? The other elephant in the room was the leak from one of our coaches a month or two ago that Begeristain was insttructing them all that we were going to have a club formation of 4-3-3.

It feels like the club is at something of a crossroads. Mancini seems to believe that his work is independant of the D of F, whereas I'm inclined to believe we wouldn't have employed a big hitter like this without expecting him to have huge input into the first team.

Pellegrini? I don't know enough about him to get into detail about whether he's the right or the wrong man. But our only basis for hypothesising is one single leak in Chile, and Duncan Castle's story which also mentioned Klopp. I get the feeling that we are putting our various feelers and he's just one. That's what any sensible business person would do whilst making contingiency plans.

I don't think the club is at a crossroads, more Mancini is. Either he fits in with the long term strategic plan that is in place or he ships out is more where I believe we are.

If he stays then he has the summer to address whatever deficiencies he sees with whatever resources are provided by Txiki. If he goes, newbie works under the same constraints.

Do those constraints then limit our options in terms of replacing Mancini? Would Moo accept those constraints? As we've said, Pep is in place at Bayern, Klopp looks fair set to stay at Dortmund, Pellegrini spent lavishly (£200m on 4 players) to finish second in his one season at Madrid, can't see Wenger leaving Arsenal for us - unless he gets the push in which case I either see him taking a break or moving abroad, Ancelloti looks a shoo-in for Madrid if Jose goes.

Suddenly the field shrinks considerably and perhaps we review how best we can make it work with the current incumbent making it plain "fail in Europe this year and it's over" as by that time there may be more canadidates that are suitable and available, the alternative to that being Mancini will have delivered.

 

[mancity1]

You know my thoughts on RM a good manager , not a great one and never will be.

If we have a better alternative to challenge both home and abroad with minimum risk and downside of course we need to do due diligence.

I don't see one available that is all.

That's the nub of it for me MC1. You think I'm unfair on Mancini and yet it seems we actually have an identical view of him. The question about alternatives isn't one we'll answer, but one Txiki, Khaldoun, etc will answer. Speculating about names being linked with us is pretty much par for the course and I see no problem with it.

I have never said nor do I think you are unfair on Mancini outside the fact I thought you should have received a short term ban for the words you used to describe your feelings toward him on one occasion if my memory serves me correctly which I would say are total inappropriate as opposed to unfair.

I thinks it fair to say you think it would be best for the club that he not be at the helm come the start of next year and I have no problem with you having that view.

I think he should have and deserves a third tilt at Chumps League progress but he knows the score if he fails at the first hurdle.

As remote as some may think , I am not discounting the possibility he will leave us as opposed to being sacked ( albeit it a clouded difference often ) in the summer either by any means.

 

[BobKowalski]

can we adjoin this until the end of the season please?doing my head in slagging the man who has given us so much.when we get to the end of the season and see where we finish we can go again as much as you like

Don't open the thread and your head won't be done in. It really isn't that difficult a concept to grasp yet so many are currently struggling with it. It's like going to a metal gig and then complaining about the noise!

A gig last a few hours. This 'debate' has been going on for 3 years. A different tune now and then would be nice.

 

[the goats backside]

can we adjoin this until the end of the season please?doing my head in slagging the man who has given us so much.when we get to the end of the season and see where we finish we can go again as much as you like

Don't open the thread and your head won't be done in. It really isn't that difficult a concept to grasp yet so many are currently struggling with it. It's like going to a metal gig and then complaining about the noise!

A gig last a few hours. This 'debate' has been going on for 3 years. A different tune now and then would be nice.

Punk?

 

[Didsbury Dave]

You know my thoughts on RM a good manager , not a great one and never will be.

If we have a better alternative to challenge both home and abroad with minimum risk and downside of course we need to do due diligence.

I don't see one available that is all.

That's the nub of it for me MC1. You think I'm unfair on Mancini and yet it seems we actually have an identical view of him. The question about alternatives isn't one we'll answer, but one Txiki, Khaldoun, etc will answer. Speculating about names being linked with us is pretty much par for the course and I see no problem with it.

I have never said nor do I think you are unfair on Mancini outside the fact I thought you should have received a short term ban for the words you used to describe your feelings toward him on one occasion if my memory serves me correctly which I would say are total inappropriate as opposed to unfair.

I thinks it fair to say you think it would be best for the club that he not be at the helm come the start of next year and I have no problem with you having that view.

I think he should have and deserves a third tilt at Chumps League progress but he knows the score if he fails at the first hurdle.

As remote as some may think , I am not discounting the possibility he will leave us as opposed to being sacked ( albeit it a clouded difference often ) in the summer either by any means.

You wanted billy to be banned because of comments about the manager?

Please. It's a liberally moderated football forrum, not north korea.

You weren't the comedian who said he should be banned from the etihad were you? Now that was funny ;-)

 

[cleavers]

I don't think the club is at a crossroads, more Mancini is. Either he fits in with the long term strategic plan that is in place or he ships out is more where I believe we are.

If he stays then he has the summer to address whatever deficiencies he sees with whatever resources are provided by Txiki. If he goes, newbie works under the same constraints.

Do those constraints then limit our options in terms of replacing Mancini? Would Moo accept those constraints? As we've said, Pep is in place at Bayern, Klopp looks fair set to stay at Dortmund, Pellegrini spent lavishly (£200m on 4 players) to finish second in his one season at Madrid, can't see Wenger leaving Arsenal for us - unless he gets the push in which case I either see him taking a break or moving abroad, Ancelloti looks a shoo-in for Madrid if Jose goes.

Suddenly the field shrinks considerably and perhaps we review how best we can make it work with the current incumbent making it plain "fail in Europe this year and it's over" as by that time there may be more canadidates that are suitable and available, the alternative to that being Mancini will have delivered.

Probably the best post I've seen on the subject.

 

[Anonymous]

I have never said nor do I think you are unfair on Mancini outside the fact I thought you should have received a short term ban for the words you used to describe your feelings toward him on one occasion if my memory serves me correctly which I would say are total inappropriate as opposed to unfair.

You've alluded to this a fair few times ... what was it I'm supposed to have said ? I genuinely don't recall ... although it's not out of the question I've said something very harsh about him, just not sure i or you could post anything about a player/manager which would warrant a ban .

 

[Anonymous]

I don't think the club is at a crossroads, more Mancini is. Either he fits in with the long term strategic plan that is in place or he ships out is more where I believe we are.

If he stays then he has the summer to address whatever deficiencies he sees with whatever resources are provided by Txiki. If he goes, newbie works under the same constraints.

Do those constraints then limit our options in terms of replacing Mancini? Would Moo accept those constraints? As we've said, Pep is in place at Bayern, Klopp looks fair set to stay at Dortmund, Pellegrini spent lavishly (£200m on 4 players) to finish second in his one season at Madrid, can't see Wenger leaving Arsenal for us - unless he gets the push in which case I either see him taking a break or moving abroad, Ancelloti looks a shoo-in for Madrid if Jose goes.

Suddenly the field shrinks considerably and perhaps we review how best we can make it work with the current incumbent making it plain "fail in Europe this year and it's over" as by that time there may be more canadidates that are suitable and available, the alternative to that being Mancini will have delivered.

Probably the best post I've seen on the subject.

It's a point of view which is rooted in the idea that the owners can't get someone they want to replace Mancini. In that sense it sort of goes without saying no ? I don't think anyone is advocating just sacking Mancini then seeing what happens - but I think it's also fair to say that if options are being looked at and a better one in the eyes of the owners presents itself, then Mancini goes.

On the whole "give him one more season but then he goes if he doesn't improve on this season" - the one problem with that is players acquisition this summer and the shaping of the squad vis a vis player contracts set to expire. If this is all Txiki's domain, then I think Mancini will walk anyway. If Mancini has a big say, then it's pointless giving him his players then sacking him 12 months later if it hasn't worked out.

It's a conundrum for the powers that be IMO.

 

[bernabias home shirt]

There are fake moon landing websites that take the piss out of BM and its Jose obsession.

Now that was funny.