Mourinho or Mancini

BillyShears said:
blueinsa said:
The Future's Blue said:
What's this got to do with Mancini? And again, why does somebody feel the need to compare when my post is clearly talking about Mourinho and his current issues.

Thread topic might just give you a clue?

He's a sensitive soul when it comes to our Bobby... ;)
There you go again, feeding the propaganda. Do you even know that I am a Mancini fan or do you just use this line to make yourself look just that little bit bigger?

The truth is I'm not a Mancini lover. I respect him for what he has done and think he's done a gleaming job to get us where we are today. That does not mean that I think he's the be-all and end-all at City as at the end of the day he will move on and we'll still be here.

The difference between us is that I can see beyond my own views and don't feel the need to slate any of our current set-up as they all played a part in where we came from and will play a part in where we are going. Mourinho, Pep, and all of the names mentioned will get my full and uneqivocal support if they join us, and that will continue until I feel the need is such that there is no chance of forward movement.
 
Mancio said:
i'm not brave enough for think to how this place would be if city was 13 points behind the rags and 7 points behind another team

When will some of you idiots realise that he's 13 points behind probably the best club side assembled? 52 points from 18 games.

I'm sorry but does any sensible adult really believe that if Mancini was manager of Madrid he would overcome the current Barca side? Not a prayer!
 
OB1 said:
Mancio said:
i'm not brave enough for think to how this place would be if city was 13 points behind the rags and 7 points behind another team

Think Chernobyl and double it.



ahahhahahahahahhaha<br /><br />-- Sun Jan 06, 2013 8:50 pm --<br /><br />
cookster said:
Mancio said:
i'm not brave enough for think to how this place would be if city was 13 points behind the rags and 7 points behind another team

When will some of you idiots realise that he's 13 points behind probably the best club side assembled? 52 points from 18 games.

I'm sorry but does any sensible adult really believe that if Mancini was manager of Madrid he would overcome the current Barca side? Not a prayer!


given real madrid squad quality maybe mancini if was RM manager would be a bit more close to barca and the other madrid club
 
gordondaviesmoustache said:
Mancio said:
i'm not brave enough for think to how this place would be if city was 13 points behind the rags and 7 points behind another team

Used to happen every season before you came along ;-)

Saucer of milk anyone.. ;)
 
cookster said:
Mancio said:
i'm not brave enough for think to how this place would be if city was 13 points behind the rags and 7 points behind another team

When will some of you idiots realise that he's 13 points behind probably the best club side assembled? 52 points from 18 games.

I'm sorry but does any sensible adult really believe that if Mancini was manager of Madrid he would overcome the current Barca side? Not a prayer!

What about A.Madrid are they the second best club side the in the world...? R.Madrid have spent a few bob ;)
 
Mourinho's problems at Madrid appear to have a lot to do with the nature and politics of that particular club; they don't mean he's suddenly doomed to fail forevermore.
 
The Future's Blue said:
The difference here mate is that I'm not making an arguement or comparison for either Mancini or Mourinho as my post was clearly talking about Mourinho's current position. As you'll note I've not had a go at Mourinho in any shape or form but tried to express an opinion on his current position.

I can understand that this is a 'versus' thread but not every post is aimed at deriding one or the other. Why you almost institutionally believe that every post is aimed at 'getting one over' is far more interesting for me as it's got to the point where a discussion cannot actually take place, where every post is turned into an arguement rather than a debate.

At this moment you feel the need to defend Mourinho whilst I'm looking at his current problems at Real, possibly where he will move on to. Surely that's a far better debate than one where it ping-pongs from slating either manager.

Just a thought.

Fair enough if you think I'm stifling debate or being purposely argumentative I can only apologise. Lets cut through the personal point scoring and try and root out the discussion. You posted earlier that essentially Mourinho had fucked up royally this season, and made reference in particular to him being an "arm around the shoulder" type of manager. Since you're not clear what you were referring to I can only infer that your referring to him falling out with Casillas and Ramos.

On the first point, that he's fucked this season up, unquestionably he has. There have been mitigating circumstances, but ultimately as manager he takes responsibility for their underperformance in the league. He's going to lose his job this summer, so no one can say there won't be consequences.

His relationship with Ramos and Casillas has always been strained. I'd say my best guess is that this was down to egos. Mourinho is the boss and is treated by the overwhelmingly vast majority of footballers he works with and has worked with, as the Don. Ramos and Casillas are the Dons at Madrid. So you have a pretty combustible situation. Who's fault is that, well I don't know. The argument could be expanded to say that Madrid as an institution, and Mourinho as a manager, were incompatible from day one. He hadn't been in the door more than 5 minutes before him and Valdano were at each other's throats. All parties went into the situation with open eyes about what it was going to be.

What happens next ? In my opinion Mourinho will leave Madrid come the summer. I think even if he weren't 15 points behind Barca, but 15 points ahead of them he'd leave this summer. I also think that that parting of the ways would be mutual as well. The only difference would be Mourinho would be leaving a hero.

Where the man goes next is anyone's guess ... I can envisage scenarios where he'd join United, Chelsea, or City. Those talking PSG, in my opinion, don't understand him. His ego comes before even hard cash. His next job will be in England and not the sixth or seventh most competitive league in Europe.
 
cookster said:
Mancio said:
i'm not brave enough for think to how this place would be if city was 13 points behind the rags and 7 points behind another team

When will some of you idiots realise that he's 13 points behind probably the best club side assembled? 52 points from 18 games.

I'm sorry but does any sensible adult really believe that if Mancini was manager of Madrid he would overcome the current Barca side? Not a prayer!

Do they play Barca every week
 

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