Mr Kun Aguero

[Abattoir Blue]

Re: Mr Kun Agguero

Could we seriously have a new Maradona on our hands? There is no doubt, last night we all got to see what Sergio "Kun" Aguero has to offer as an individual, but we also got to see what he can offer to the team aswell. His link up play with Silva was top notch, and quite rightly everyone has praised that, but there isn't much of a mention between the link up play between Aguero and Yaya. There was some promising developments and undertsanding between these two and it got better as the minutes went by. IF, and its big, hence the Caps Lock, newspapers reports are right and Nasri comes in, the link up between, Silva, Aguero, Yaya, Dzeko and Nasri could be the most mouth watering attacking line the Premiership may have been given. Obviously it would depend on how advanced Yaya would be allowed.
Throw into that Sneijder if a deal is to happen, or even if Tevez decides to stay, after last night anything is possible, then this just moves us on again.

I know after writing all that there is one thing im looking forward to, its not silverware, its not the Premiership title, its not even the Champions League trophy. It is to see what has become of Manchester City's record signing and what that increase of improvement will be.

whooooooa! slow down a little bit. no, we havent. the only player ever to come close to him is messi. and messi is by far and away the best player in the world.

Kun is one of the best strikers in the world, no doubt about it though.

Maradona was clearly one of the greatest players in the world, and Messi is almost certainly the best player in the world at the moment.

But to say that Messi is the only player ever to have "ever come close" to Maradona, and then to say that Messi is "by far and away the best player in the world" is really going way, way over the top in praise of these two.

I can think of quite a few players, past and present, whom I would put into the same category as Maradoni and Messi - and in some cases it is really arguable if either M or M were really that superior to these others.

Yep.

Platini
Laudrup (M)
Pele
Cruyff
Best
Garrincha
Puskas
Baggio
Di Stefano

etc..

 

[Frank H]

Re: Mr Kun Agguero

whooooooa! slow down a little bit. no, we havent. the only player ever to come close to him is messi. and messi is by far and away the best player in the world.

Kun is one of the best strikers in the world, no doubt about it though.

Maradona was clearly one of the greatest players in the world, and Messi is almost certainly the best player in the world at the moment.

But to say that Messi is the only player ever to have "ever come close" to Maradona, and then to say that Messi is "by far and away the best player in the world" is really going way, way over the top in praise of these two.

I can think of quite a few players, past and present, whom I would put into the same category as Maradoni and Messi - and in some cases it is really arguable if either M or M were really that superior to these others.

I'm concerned this may sound sarcastic or argumentative - apologies if it does as it is a genuine question, not an attack - but who would you say are better then?

I'm not claiming that any are better! Read what I wrote - I am saying that even if they were/are the best players in the world, they are not so superior that there is no questioning about it!

I also object to the idea that Messi is "far and away" the best player at present, and that only he has "ever come close" to Maradona. Great as these two undoubtedly were/are, this is IMHO, a far too exaggerated view of their superiority.

 

[Anonymous]

Maradona was clearly one of the greatest players in the world, and Messi is almost certainly the best player in the world at the moment.

But to say that Messi is the only player ever to have "ever come close" to Maradona, and then to say that Messi is "by far and away the best player in the world" is really going way, way over the top in praise of these two.

I can think of quite a few players, past and present, whom I would put into the same category as Maradoni and Messi - and in some cases it is really arguable if either M or M were really that superior to these others.

I'm concerned this may sound sarcastic or argumentative - apologies if it does as it is a genuine question, not an attack - but who would you say are better then?

I'm not claiming that any are better! Read what I wrote - I am saying that even if they were/are the best players in the world, they are not so superior that there is no questioning about it!

I also object to the idea that Messi is "far and away" the best player at present, and that only he has "ever come close" to Maradona. Great as these two undoubtedly were/are, this is IMHO, a far too exaggerated view of their superiority.

Sorry Frank; who would you put in the same bracket then? Cheers.

 

[Frank H]

I'm concerned this may sound sarcastic or argumentative - apologies if it does as it is a genuine question, not an attack - but who would you say are better then?

I'm not claiming that any are better! Read what I wrote - I am saying that even if they were/are the best players in the world, they are not so superior that there is no questioning about it!

I also object to the idea that Messi is "far and away" the best player at present, and that only he has "ever come close" to Maradona. Great as these two undoubtedly were/are, this is IMHO, a far too exaggerated view of their superiority.

Sorry Frank; who would you put in the same bracket then? Cheers.

Abattoir Blue has given a reasonable list, although I wouldn't agree with him on all of them.

Pele certainly. And I'm sorry to have to agree about George Best. I once saw him virtually single-handedly turn a 0-1 loss (at Hillsborough vs Wednesday) into a 3-1 victory in the course of 15 minutes, in which he was almost impossible for the opposition to play against. But he was a man who in the end almost criminally wasted his God given talent.

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

I'm not claiming that any are better! Read what I wrote - I am saying that even if they were/are the best players in the world, they are not so superior that there is no questioning about it!

I also object to the idea that Messi is "far and away" the best player at present, and that only he has "ever come close" to Maradona. Great as these two undoubtedly were/are, this is IMHO, a far too exaggerated view of their superiority.

Sorry Frank; who would you put in the same bracket then? Cheers.

Abattoir Blue has given a reasonable list, although I wouldn't agree with him on all of them.

Pele certainly. And I'm sorry to have to agree about George Best. I once saw him virtually single-handedly turn a 0-1 loss (at Hillsborough vs Wednesday) into a 3-1 victory in the course of 15 minutes, in which he was almost impossible for the opposition to play against. But he was a man who in the end almost criminally wasted his God given talent.

How about Scholesy or Giggsy? Or Keano?

 

[BIG DONKEY]

I'm not claiming that any are better! Read what I wrote - I am saying that even if they were/are the best players in the world, they are not so superior that there is no questioning about it!

I also object to the idea that Messi is "far and away" the best player at present, and that only he has "ever come close" to Maradona. Great as these two undoubtedly were/are, this is IMHO, a far too exaggerated view of their superiority.

Sorry Frank; who would you put in the same bracket then? Cheers.

Abattoir Blue has given a reasonable list, although I wouldn't agree with him on all of them.

Pele certainly. And I'm sorry to have to agree about George Best. I once saw him virtually single-handedly turn a 0-1 loss (at Hillsborough vs Wednesday) into a 3-1 victory in the course of 15 minutes, in which he was almost impossible for the opposition to play against. But he was a man who in the end almost criminally wasted his God given talent.

Pele are you serious? He is nowhere near Maradonna or Messi...not even close

 

[samharris]

I'm thinking of lodging a complaint to the the internet ombudsman over sommat that is playing on my mind,to be honest im surprised that no one else has picked up on it seeing as it is a regular argument on this forum.

How dare Mr Sergio Kun Aguero (of no fixed abode Manchester) have the shamefull audacity to play last night like he does on Youtube.. It is a common argument on here that Youtube videos make players look better than they are so surely Mr Aguero is flouting internet laws and should feel the full force of the internet police..

Discusted is a poor term for how I feel.

 

[come_as_you_are]

right im a united fan whos signed up to this site for a bit of crack during the working week !! before the kids get all giddy and ask how surrey is yes im a manc (living further up north now)

anyway this player, and silva will be your best 2 players in years to come, the understanding they had yesterday after only 1 game ? was impressive, obviously it was only swansea and if you wana do anything this season you have to carry it on in the big games, but it was a decent start for you lads

but in all honesty, i think id rather have bebe ;)

 

[lee-mcfc]

can we stop comparing him already , aguero is aguero a top class player.
I think he will score atleast 20 goals this season only 18more to go ;)

 

[paphos-mcfc]

can we stop comparing him already , aguero is aguero a top class player.
I think he will score atleast 30 goals this season only 28 more to go ;)

Corrected.

 

[Frank H]

Sorry Frank; who would you put in the same bracket then? Cheers.

Abattoir Blue has given a reasonable list, although I wouldn't agree with him on all of them.

Pele certainly. And I'm sorry to have to agree about George Best. I once saw him virtually single-handedly turn a 0-1 loss (at Hillsborough vs Wednesday) into a 3-1 victory in the course of 15 minutes, in which he was almost impossible for the opposition to play against. But he was a man who in the end almost criminally wasted his God given talent.

Pele are you serious? He is nowhere near Maradonna or Messi...not even close

Yes, I am serious. I would agree that Maradona was very probably better, but it's arguable. And not a few pundits would rate Pele as at least his equal.

It is at best a matter of opinion, not a proven scientific fact.

I'm afraid your attitude is symptomatic of the sort of Messi- and (to a lesser degree) Maradona-olatry, which I come across so often, in this and other football fan forums.

These were/are two very great players - perhaps the two greatest there have ever been. But to think of them as in another league/on another planet to all the rest is IMHO ridiculous.

 

[lee-mcfc]

can we stop comparing him already , aguero is aguero a top class player.
I think he will score atleast 30 goals this season only 28 more to go ;)

Corrected.

Hm might be a big ask, but he looks like he can score for fun so who knows!

 

[Frank H]

Sorry Frank; who would you put in the same bracket then? Cheers.

Abattoir Blue has given a reasonable list, although I wouldn't agree with him on all of them.

Pele certainly. And I'm sorry to have to agree about George Best. I once saw him virtually single-handedly turn a 0-1 loss (at Hillsborough vs Wednesday) into a 3-1 victory in the course of 15 minutes, in which he was almost impossible for the opposition to play against. But he was a man who in the end almost criminally wasted his God given talent.

How about Scholesy or Giggsy? Or Keano?

As these are all ManU players, I wonder if in the context of this forum this is intended as a serious question!

IMHO, none of these are in the same category as the players we have been discussing. I don't think either Scholes or Keane were exceptionally naturally talented. Giggs is, but not on the level of George Best.

 

[gaudinho's stolen car]

Abattoir Blue has given a reasonable list, although I wouldn't agree with him on all of them.

Pele certainly. And I'm sorry to have to agree about George Best. I once saw him virtually single-handedly turn a 0-1 loss (at Hillsborough vs Wednesday) into a 3-1 victory in the course of 15 minutes, in which he was almost impossible for the opposition to play against. But he was a man who in the end almost criminally wasted his God given talent.

How about Scholesy or Giggsy? Or Keano?

As these are all ManU players, I wonder if in the context of this forum this is intended as a serious question!

IMHO, none of these are in the same category as the players we have been discussing. I don't think either Scholes or Keane were exceptionally naturally talented. Giggs is, but not on the level of George Best.

Well I'm sure you put Eric the King up there with the very best?

 

[mancboy123]

This it was only swansea nonsense is so boring, im taking it based on that reasoning that wba, sunderland, newcastle and stoke are all going to be fighting for top 4 this season.

 

[londonbasedblue]

You've proved a point tonight. You are the best player in the premiership. I'm glad you're wearing a blue shirt. ( Second best player David Silva ) ;)

Amen

He'll have to play at a seriously high standard for several seasons before you could judge anyone 'best in the Premiership'. He is the real deal though, no doubting he is world class.

I would guess that a lot of blues want to see the back of Tevez after demanding to leave, but having had children myself, i couldn't imagine being so far away from them, in a country that would still be slightly alien to him. I don't blame him one bit for wanting to leave City, if you are going to demand to leave a club, wanting to be closer to your family is not something anyone should ever criticise. Family is far more important than anything else. We'll see if he respects the club with his words, actions and performances while he is still here.

Anyway, the point to my Tevez reference is that i can't quite believe i might see a Man City forward line that compromises Da Silva, Aguero and Tevez with Toure in midfield. Three Word Class players who would play in any tam in the world and one who who would play in any team in the world with the exception of Barcelona.

Milner for me was a poor purchase. I've always believe this guy is vastly over rated and i think he's going to play a squad role now, sitting out the biggest games when everyone is fit. Adam Johnson i think could be a class player, happy to see him starting more often than not.

Would rather have had Baines than Clichy if i'm honest. Not sure he's a top player and i still believe we need a world class centre half to play with Kompany.

World Class left back and centre half and i think we have a team / squad that could not only win the Premier league, but also the Champions League given a season or two to for the players to familiarise with each other.

 

[Stretford Born Blue]

37 years I've followed City at live matches and in all that time I have never seen a real striker take to the pitch in the City blue and white.
Tevez is good, don't get me wrong and there have been some decent strikers, but this little fella seems to have that little bit more to offer.
His passing and movement, vision, speed and strength were just out of this world.
35 minutes he was on the pitch, scored two, made one and became the new City legend/hero. It was special, he is special and I have no doubt we have got a player here who will do the business.
I would walk a million miles through quicksand to watch him play.
I will stick my neck out, even after just 35 minutes, we have never had a more effective striker, a more perfect striker, a striker in the mould of Maradona and Messi in one..............Can't waite for the Bolton game.
Messi has apparently said that Aguero is a better player than he is, well we saw something last night, something different, something exceptional.
If Tevez stays they would be real scary, in fact Dzeko worked well with him.
When he came on his energy got everybody in the team passing, running and moving as they should, they wanted to keep up with him, Tevez has the same impact but just not quite as much.
Aguero, my prediction is for 32 goals in all competition, Balotelli will need to sharpen up, he won't get on the pitch............................?!

 

[jonmcfc]

My rag nephew turned to me at 4.30pm as i left to get coach to match yesterday,and sad "Your in for a treat with augero"

How right he was,seen him this morning he just said "told you" :-)

 

[cityboy95]

Re: Mr Kun Agguero

Leading goal scorer in the Premier League right now ;)

and will stay that way :P

 

[Peteri]

Song: Delilah
Artist: Tom Jones
Chorus: Kun, Kun, Kun, Aguero.

:)