MUEN - what's gone wrong?

[bluemanc]

If you speak to football fans in general, then they will all claim that their local newspaper is biased against their club, especially if that Town or City has more than club. In my view MEN don't have a particular bias against us, it is down to how you interpret the angle of the story.

Explain infamous & andy mitten,in general have you actually read the MEN?
"no bias,interpret angle",you read you see,if a lie is told it's a lie,if a journo lies about what a dead person was in real life it is a lie.
No angle,no bias,no interpretation or claim,just factual.

 

[lloydie]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

This is how a MEN describes two players in the same article....

Former Manchester United goalkeeper Alex Stepney, who won the league, FA Cup and European Cup,

Average Goalkeeper...

Colin Bell, who won the FA Cup with Manchester City

the finest English footballer of the generation...

which article was this? have you a link?

Yes Stuart, yes I do,

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1461177_manchester-school-bans-dangerous-footballs-from-the-playground" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... playground</a>

Sorry it's taken so long to post it, but you could have found it if you knew how to use the search function on your own site, would have saved me clicking on it again.

 

[Ray78]

If you speak to football fans in general, then they will all claim that their local newspaper is biased against their club, especially if that Town or City has more than club. In my view MEN don't have a particular bias against us, it is down to how you interpret the angle of the story.

Explain infamous & andy mitten,in general have you actually read the MEN?
"no bias,interpret angle",you read you see,if a lie is told it's a lie,if a jouno lies about what a dead person was in real life it is a lie.
No angle,no bias,no interpretation or claim,just factual.

Yes I have read the MEN, and ok they have given a rag a coloumn to fill , prehaps we should suggest having a Blue Writer as well, there are a few posters on Blue Moon who can do the job. However in my opinion their reporting has been fair to us, we have high points in our history but too few of them. Like it or not they had been the most successful club for the best part of 20 years, we can't change that. Our time has now arrived and in my view, the way we are being percieved in the press will change over time as well.

 

[bluemanc]

If you speak to football fans in general, then they will all claim that their local newspaper is biased against their club, especially if that Town or City has more than club. In my view MEN don't have a particular bias against us, it is down to how you interpret the angle of the story.

Explain infamous & andy mitten,in general have you actually read the MEN?
"no bias,interpret angle",you read you see,if a lie is told it's a lie,if a jouno lies about what a dead person was in real life it is a lie.
No angle,no bias,no interpretation or claim,just factual.

Yes I have read the MEN, and ok they have given a rag a coloumn to fill , prehaps we should suggest having a Blue Writer as well, there are a few posters on Blue Moon who can do the job. However in my opinion their reporting has been fair to us. Like it or not they had been the most successful club for the best part of 20 years, we can't change that. Our time is coming and in my view, the way we are being percieved in the press will change over time as well.

You have not read the MEN,you have no idea of what those 2 have wrote.
By all means eccept they are allowed to write whatever they want true or untrue because utd have done well the last 20 yrs, that is up to you.
As for the "percieve" bit,this is a specific thread about the MEN not the general media.
The 2 instances i highlighted are enough but mitten seems to have been given as much leeway as he wants to print whatever he wants about us true or untrue, otherwise his last 2 articles would have been proofed and altered.

 

[HelloCity]

Here's how positive the headlines were about City just after we had won the league....

 

[sir baconface]

Re the "infamous" headline, it was a well-intentioned article in fairness. What let it down big time was shoddy standards, i.e. a peasant of a journalist, a roof reader who was out for a crafty wank and a lazy editor. On this occasion it was clearly incompetence rather than bias.

It doesn't excuse them though because the net effect was disrespectful to a blue heroine. It upset a number of City fans who had fond memories of Helen the bell ringer. And for that reason I have posted a complaint. The MEN should apologise publicly for their fuck-up if they haven't already done so. Anyone know if they have?

 

[sir baconface]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

This is how a MEN describes two players in the same article....



Average Goalkeeper...



the finest English footballer of the generation...

which article was this? have you a link?

Yes Stuart, yes I do,

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/news/s/1461177_manchester-school-bans-dangerous-footballs-from-the-playground" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... playground</a>

Sorry it's taken so long to post it, but you could have found it if you knew how to use the search function on your own site, would have saved me clicking on it again.

Nice work, lloydie.

 

[Ray78]

Explain infamous & andy mitten,in general have you actually read the MEN?
"no bias,interpret angle",you read you see,if a lie is told it's a lie,if a jouno lies about what a dead person was in real life it is a lie.
No angle,no bias,no interpretation or claim,just factual.

Yes I have read the MEN, and ok they have given a rag a coloumn to fill , prehaps we should suggest having a Blue Writer as well, there are a few posters on Blue Moon who can do the job. However in my opinion their reporting has been fair to us. Like it or not they had been the most successful club for the best part of 20 years, we can't change that. Our time is coming and in my view, the way we are being percieved in the press will change over time as well.

You have not read the MEN,you have no idea of what those 2 have wrote.
By all means eccept they are allowed to write whatever they want true or untrue because utd have done well the last 20 yrs, that is up to you.
As for the "percieve" bit,this is a specific thread about the MEN not the general media.
The 2 instances i highlighted are enough but mitten seems to have been given as much leeway as he wants to print whatever he wants about us true or untrue, otherwise his last 2 articles would have been proofed and altered.

Cynical as it sounds but they have done their job. It doesn't matter to them if they fan the flames as long as they can sell copy. Newspapers are a dying breed, especially local ones so it should not be too long before they are completely out of existance, the internet has taken care of that business.

 

[stuart brennan]

Heres a story posted on the MUEN today which is taken directly from the same story posted in the SUN by Neil Custus yesterday...The only problem is the favourable comments about City wining the title have been edited from the MUEN story. Why would a supposed impartial media outlet put such a bias slant on a story favouring one local team over the other??

MUEN post on 30th July 2012
Manchester City celebrations will spark Manchester United - Paul Scholes
Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes will use Manchester City's final day celebrations as his motivating force in the 2012/13 campaign.
The Reds lost out on the Premier League title on goal difference, and Scholes is still feeling the sting of the finale.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
"It's not nice to see another team celebrate winning the title on the last day of the season. That picture stays with you."

Sun post 29th July 2012
Paul Scholes says Manchester City deserved to win the title
PAUL SCHOLES says Manchester City have raised the bar in the Premier League and it is now up to everyone else to reach higher.Only goal difference separated champions City from Manchester United at the end of last season. But according to Scholes that wafer-thin gap really painted over a bigger crack between the two sides.Now he says it is time for United to stop believing they are City’s equal and set about bridging the gap.
“As much as I don’t want to admit it, City were good to watch and probably played the best football, so from that aspect they were the best team and deserved to win it.
“They have raised the bar, so now it’s up to us to kick on and do better than they did.”
“We failed at the end of last season, we should have won the league and didn’t.
“It was a major disappointment to lose the league.”
“It’s not nice when you see another team celebrating winning the league on the last day of the season and that picture stays with you.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
“It is in your head and you don’t want it to happen again.”

You don't really need to add anything else...says it all!!!

Very simple explanation.
The story wasn't lifted from The Sun at all. The story came from the Press Association, which every newspaper in the country subscribes to (commonly known as the wire).
The CITY FAN who runs our online sports operation monitors stories coming in on the wire and puts up every story he thinks will be of interest to MEN online readers. Here is the story which he received:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premier-league/manchester-united/news/article/330/7947136/scholes-keen-to-carry-on" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportinglife.com/football/pr ... o-carry-on</a>

(The reason I have linked to the Sporting Life site is because they simply put up every PA story)
I've not spoken to him, but I'm pretty sure that our man picked up that PA story, which didn't use the other quotes at all, and decided that the England stuff at the top was not as interesting as the Manchester stuff at the bottom.
He didn't see the Sun quotes, as they weren't in the PA story.

 

[stuart brennan]

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

This is how a MEN describes two players in the same article....



Average Goalkeeper...

As well as spending most of my day off yesterday trying to answer stuff on here, you want me to chase up links as well?

The only thing I can say about that article is that it is a news article, clearly done by a news reporter who hasn't got much of a clue about football. he or she should have asked the sports desk.
But you think that the reporter deliberately left out Bell's other honours in a deliberate attempt to detract from City's past achievements?
It was a mistake, not some kind of grassy knoll.
Just take a look through other football forums - they are all full of paranoid football fans who think the media have it in for their club. Are they all correct, or just City fans?
We could sit here until kingdom come finding examples of perceived United bias or perceived City bias.