MUEN - what's gone wrong?

ABU inc GDR said:
stuart brennan said:
ABU inc GDR said:
Heres a story posted on the MUEN today which is taken directly from the same story posted in the SUN by Neil Custus yesterday...The only problem is the favourable comments about City wining the title have been edited from the MUEN story. Why would a supposed impartial media outlet put such a bias slant on a story favouring one local team over the other??

MUEN post on 30th July 2012
Manchester City celebrations will spark Manchester United - Paul Scholes
Manchester United midfielder Paul Scholes will use Manchester City's final day celebrations as his motivating force in the 2012/13 campaign.
The Reds lost out on the Premier League title on goal difference, and Scholes is still feeling the sting of the finale.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
"It's not nice to see another team celebrate winning the title on the last day of the season. That picture stays with you."

Sun post 29th July 2012
Paul Scholes says Manchester City deserved to win the title
PAUL SCHOLES says Manchester City have raised the bar in the Premier League and it is now up to everyone else to reach higher.Only goal difference separated champions City from Manchester United at the end of last season. But according to Scholes that wafer-thin gap really painted over a bigger crack between the two sides.Now he says it is time for United to stop believing they are City’s equal and set about bridging the gap.
“As much as I don’t want to admit it, City were good to watch and probably played the best football, so from that aspect they were the best team and deserved to win it.
“They have raised the bar, so now it’s up to us to kick on and do better than they did.”
“We failed at the end of last season, we should have won the league and didn’t.
“It was a major disappointment to lose the league.”
“It’s not nice when you see another team celebrating winning the league on the last day of the season and that picture stays with you.
"It's always a motivating force when you lose the league," he said.
“It is in your head and you don’t want it to happen again.”

You don't really need to add anything else...says it all!!!
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Very simple explanation.
The story wasn't lifted from The Sun at all. The story came from the Press Association, which every newspaper in the country subscribes to (commonly known as the wire).
The CITY FAN who runs our online sports operation monitors stories coming in on the wire and puts up every story he thinks will be of interest to MEN online readers. Here is the story which he received:
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sportinglife.com/football/premier-league/manchester-united/news/article/330/7947136/scholes-keen-to-carry-on" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sportinglife.com/football/pr ... o-carry-on</a>

(The reason I have linked to the Sporting Life site is because they simply put up every PA story)
I've not spoken to him, but I'm pretty sure that our man picked up that PA story, which didn't use the other quotes at all, and decided that the England stuff at the top was not as interesting as the Manchester stuff at the bottom.
He didn't see the Sun quotes, as they weren't in the PA story.
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Stuart thankyou for your explaination, however both articles must have been originally sourced from the same interview as they included two quotes which were identical. Unfortunately your direct source had already edited what Paul Scholes had said which gave a completely different slant to the story. It allowed the PA to use their own terminology like "gifted the title" when what Paul Scholes had actualy said was quite graciously "the best team had won the title and had played the better football".

I am suprised that the PA would employ any journalist who would think that they could convey an accurate account of any story by omitting direct quotations. The editing of this piece by the PA and their inclusion of certain terminology appears to put a completely bias slant on what was actually said.

Stuart this is precisly the problem that most City fans have not just with the MEN but with the media as a whole.
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The quotes will have been sourced from the same interview, and I honestly don't know what the source was, whether a Sun exclusive, or MUTV or what. But you only noticed it because you deemed it to be anti-City. It is much more likely to have been an under-pressure PA sub-editor only being able to use a snippet of quotes due to copyright laws, and picking out the ones he felt were best, or appeal to the widest audience.
Go on any football forum and you will find fans of other clubs noticing anti-Arsenal, anti-United, anti-Liverpool bias and picking out examples to back up their argument. As an exercise, next time you read articles about other clubs, substitute City for the name of the club and do the same with players' and manager's name, and you will find what you regard as bias.
 
ABU inc GDR said:
In my opnion from a local paper fair is not enough!..If you can't get positive support from your local paper where else will it come from. I don't just mean in the articles that are printed, the journo's who interact with other media people should positively promte City, regardless of their rivalry which should remain a thing to be resolved by the players on the pitch.

You talk about football success, that's nothing compared to the legacy we are building in the community. I doubt there is any other club that does half the work we do in the community with youth development work and involvement with charities. The money being invested in the training accademy is unique in this country and something for everyone in Manchester to be proud of. When City's name is mentioned in the press it's always followed with terms like "sugar daddy" and "oil money" but that's not half of the story and it's time City fans stopped accepting these negative stereotypes of the club!!The local journo's are in the best position to help change the mindset of the media.
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So you are suggesting I don't write any positive articles, or challenge the national media when they write nonsense about City?
What about this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1492849_comment-manchester-city-buying-glory-now-thats-rich" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... thats-rich</a>

or this:

<a class="postlink" href="http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereveningnews/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1493428_stuart-brennan-manchester-city-are-stockpiling-points-and-goals---not-players" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://menmedia.co.uk/manchesterevening ... ot-players</a>


That is just in the last two or three months - I have written stuff like this consistently through my three years in this job.
I have also covered City's community work and academy work more than anyone else (except the official site, obviously) - in fact I am hoping to do a piece on the academy later this week.
You don't notice all the positive stuff because it doesn't fit your agenda, that the MEN is a Utd-loving, anti-City, force for evil.
What you are suggesting appears to be Soviet-style propaganda - never criticise, no matter what the club does, and always try to make out things are wonderful. That is the job of the official website, not the local paper.
 
The problems are not with the articles written by Stuart Brennan who to be fair does a good job but the paper generally, the constant dumbing down and articles designed to get fans of both clubs at each other and responding in kind on the web page comments section which is similar to Talk Shite who do something similar with inane comments designed to get people to phone in, i wonder if the MEN benefits financially from online traffic.
 
Stuart, is the future discontent regarding the Glazer ownership of utd going to give me much more to laugh at in your opinion ?

Tell us and i'll buy you a nice bacon barm mate ;)

"SAY NO TO MUFFINS, LOVE BARM"
 
I can't even read the thread. I find all this "MUEN" ranting embarrassing.

The paper is like an extension of our program and is the most biased pro-City newspaper in the world. As is every local paper to it's local teams, for self-preservation reasons.

Years of Man United domination has produced an inferiority complex and paranoia amongst sections of our support. It's as simple as that.
 
I think it's pretty clear what's going on here and for my money if anyone is to "blame" it's the Club. Historically since the closing of The Manchester Evening Chronicle in the 60’s, which without question had a much closer and stronger tie to the Club. The MEN has been the Clubs method of choice in regards to getting “their” message out there and it served both parties interests well to do so.

What has happened over the last few years, is if you like the “perfect storm” with access to new media and the new ownership shifting the focus to a global brand the relevance of a close relationship with the major local paper has dropped in value to the point they are simply another outside media outlet. Don’t forget it's not that long ago the papers writers used to have a weekly column in the matchday programme, as well as being a major customer with regards to advertisements and as has been pointed out earlier Pater Gardner used to ride on the team coach to away games!

The issue for the paper is clear, it has to fill inches with “news” from the club without the same level of contact, or indeed willingness that the club once showed them, because that’s what a large part of their readership demands. It’s not about anyone being pro/anti City, good or bad with regards their job, it simply is a realignment of a longstanding relationship.
 
DontLookBackInAnger said:
I think it's pretty clear what's going on here and for my money if anyone is to "blame" it's the Club. Historically since the closing of The Manchester Evening Chronicle in the 60’s, which without question had a much closer and stronger tie to the Club. The MEN has been the Clubs method of choice in regards to getting “their” message out there and it served both parties interests well to do so.

What has happened over the last few years, is if you like the “perfect storm” with access to new media and the new ownership shifting the focus to a global brand the relevance of a close relationship with the major local paper has dropped in value to the point they are simply another outside media outlet. Don’t forget it's not that long ago the papers writers used to have a weekly column in the matchday programme, as well as being a major customer with regards to advertisements and as has been pointed out earlier Pater Gardner used to ride on the team coach to away games!

The issue for the paper is clear, it has to fill inches with “news” from the club without the same level of contact, or indeed willingness that the club once showed them, because that’s what a large part of their readership demands. It’s not about anyone being pro/anti City, good or bad with regards their job, it simply is a realignment of a longstanding relationship.
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Excellent post, very well reasoned and accurate. Couple of points - the club also poured a load of money into their own website, and give it priority over everyone, which is understandable. That has caused the MEN relationship with the club to be re-aligned - we have had to take a more independent stance, and try to position ourselves somewhere between the Pravda of the website and the excesses of the national press.

Can I also point out that nobody in the City press office (who are experts in the field, obviously), or anywhere else at the club, has ever accused us of being anti-City or pro-United. They get annoyed with stuff we do sometimes, but are smart and balanced enough to realise it is not part of some ridiculous agenda.

The club also continues to advertise in the MEN, much more than with any other medium, so they continue to see the value we offer, and recognise that we touch the market they are trying to reach
 
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