MUEN - what's gone wrong?

Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

Stuart, have City bid for RVP?

Fergie said in South africa that Utd had, but other clubs were interested, but recently Wenger and mancini said Arsenal had received no bids, and City had not bid. Who do we believe?
 
Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

Barcon said:
Not post Stuart, posts, many posts. And if it was because you only had one man at the time, then that is the reason you lost me as a poster. The reason you lost me as a viewer has already been discussed, not only by me, but also by a lot of other people on this thread. I guess we're all paranoid.

No, you're not all paranoid. There are plenty of people on the forum who don't think the MEN is biased, and many, many more who don't go on forums at all who also don't think so. I think forums engender this kind of view, as ridiculous lies get posted, and pass into fact without being challenged - that is why I come on here every now and then. I don't mind being criticised, and I don't mind the MEN being criticised, but when people make stuff up to back up their arguments, it pisses me off.
The bottom line, whether you like it or not, is that if you feel the MEN is biased one way or the other, you are wrong, and paranoid, to a greater or lesser extent.
Can you explain to me, as no-one has yet done, why there are so many United fans who think we are biased against United?
 
Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

stuart brennan said:
Barcon said:
Not post Stuart, posts, many posts. And if it was because you only had one man at the time, then that is the reason you lost me as a poster. The reason you lost me as a viewer has already been discussed, not only by me, but also by a lot of other people on this thread. I guess we're all paranoid.

No, you're not all paranoid. There are plenty of people on the forum who don't think the MEN is biased, and many, many more who don't go on forums at all who also don't think so. I think forums engender this kind of view, as ridiculous lies get posted, and pass into fact without being challenged - that is why I come on here every now and then. I don't mind being criticised, and I don't mind the MEN being criticised, but when people make stuff up to back up their arguments, it pisses me off.
The bottom line, whether you like it or not, is that if you feel the MEN is biased one way or the other, you are wrong, and paranoid, to a greater or lesser extent.
Can you explain to me, as no-one has yet done, why there are so many United fans who think we are biased against United?

Get Brierley back!
 
Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Get Brierley back!

Ask Chris about the lengths we go to on he desk to try to ensure parity of coverage between the papers. He was deputy sports editor, and knows that we used to ensure balance as much as possible. The sports editor even had a little black book in his desk in which he would record the column inches devoted to each club, and he made sure it balanced up at the end of each week.
You would get fans of both clubs ringing up moaning that "You do loads more on Utd/City than you do on City/Utd" and he would quote the figures.

As I keep saying, people only see what they want to see, and if it doesn't fit their agenda, they dismiss it from their minds.
 
Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

stuart brennan said:
Barcon said:
Not post Stuart, posts, many posts. And if it was because you only had one man at the time, then that is the reason you lost me as a poster. The reason you lost me as a viewer has already been discussed, not only by me, but also by a lot of other people on this thread. I guess we're all paranoid.

No, you're not all paranoid. There are plenty of people on the forum who don't think the MEN is biased, and many, many more who don't go on forums at all who also don't think so. I think forums engender this kind of view, as ridiculous lies get posted, and pass into fact without being challenged - that is why I come on here every now and then. I don't mind being criticised, and I don't mind the MEN being criticised, but when people make stuff up to back up their arguments, it pisses me off.
The bottom line, whether you like it or not, is that if you feel the MEN is biased one way or the other, you are wrong, and paranoid, to a greater or lesser extent.
Can you explain to me, as no-one has yet done, why there are so many United fans who think we are biased against United?

tell you what, you come on here a little more often and we will carry on posting the times we think you are biased, you can then respond to those posts to quell our fears. i will though have to leave that to other posters though cos i will not be reading the paper, i know your paper is biased. as i say it has been for as long as i can remember and i'm a little older than your good self.

btw.
we dont want bias towards us, we dont want bias from anyone, we just want fair.
i won't hold my breath.
 
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de niro said:
tell you what, you come on here a little more often and we will carry on posting the times we think you are biased, you can then respond to those posts to quell our fears. i will though have to leave that to other posters though cos i will not be reading the paper, i know your paper is biased. as i say it has been for as long as i can remember and i'm a little older than your good self.

btw.
we dont want bias towards us, we dont want bias from anyone, we just want fair.
i won't hold my breath.

I'm at a bit of a loss here. How do you "know" the paper is biased, when you don't read it? Osmosis, telepathy or are you, in fact, God? Come on de niro, you're not making any sense.

You keep blathering out bland statements but have offered NO evidence. And you have offered no explanation of WHY it would pay us to be biased.
 
Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

stuart brennan said:
St Helens Blue (Exiled) said:
Get Brierley back!

Ask Chris about the lengths we go to on he desk to try to ensure parity of coverage between the papers. He was deputy sports editor, and knows that we used to ensure balance as much as possible. The sports editor even had a little black book in his desk in which he would record the column inches devoted to each club, and he made sure it balanced up at the end of each week.
You would get fans of both clubs ringing up moaning that "You do loads more on Utd/City than you do on City/Utd" and he would quote the figures.

As I keep saying, people only see what they want to see, and if it doesn't fit their agenda, they dismiss it from their minds.

Stuart-I know that which is why I didn't get involved in this debate. He is still a dirty rag but having known him for 20 plus years , know that when he was deputy sports editor it was his number one priority to try to be as balanced as possible.
Still think he should be sat where Mr Spencer is now but that is another debate.<br /><br />-- Sun Jul 29, 2012 4:40 pm --<br /><br />
stuart brennan said:
de niro said:
tell you what, you come on here a little more often and we will carry on posting the times we think you are biased, you can then respond to those posts to quell our fears. i will though have to leave that to other posters though cos i will not be reading the paper, i know your paper is biased. as i say it has been for as long as i can remember and i'm a little older than your good self.

btw.
we dont want bias towards us, we dont want bias from anyone, we just want fair.
i won't hold my breath.

I'm at a bit of a loss here. How do you "know" the paper is biased, when you don't read it? Osmosis, telepathy or are you, in fact, God? Come on de niro, you're not making any sense.

You keep blathering out bland statements but have offered NO evidence. And you have offered no explanation of WHY it would pay us to be biased.

He is a moderator-the blue moon mods can do no wrong!!! :-)
 
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stuart brennan said:
de niro said:
tell you what, you come on here a little more often and we will carry on posting the times we think you are biased, you can then respond to those posts to quell our fears. i will though have to leave that to other posters though cos i will not be reading the paper, i know your paper is biased. as i say it has been for as long as i can remember and i'm a little older than your good self.

btw.
we dont want bias towards us, we dont want bias from anyone, we just want fair.
i won't hold my breath.

I'm at a bit of a loss here. How do you "know" the paper is biased, when you don't read it? Osmosis, telepathy or are you, in fact, God? Come on de niro, you're not making any sense.

You keep blathering out bland statements but have offered NO evidence. And you have offered no explanation of WHY it would pay us to be biased.

cos it was biased in 1967 and looking at the comments on here for quite some time now it hasn't changed. you can't hide anymore with so many eyes and ears on line. you print bollocks and bluemooners will be on it like a flash.
 
Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

stuart brennan said:
Barcon said:
Not post Stuart, posts, many posts. And if it was because you only had one man at the time, then that is the reason you lost me as a poster. The reason you lost me as a viewer has already been discussed, not only by me, but also by a lot of other people on this thread. I guess we're all paranoid.

No, you're not all paranoid. There are plenty of people on the forum who don't think the MEN is biased, and many, many more who don't go on forums at all who also don't think so. I think forums engender this kind of view, as ridiculous lies get posted, and pass into fact without being challenged - that is why I come on here every now and then. I don't mind being criticised, and I don't mind the MEN being criticised, but when people make stuff up to back up their arguments, it pisses me off.The bottom line, whether you like it or not, is that if you feel the MEN is biased one way or the other, you are wrong, and paranoid, to a greater or lesser extent.
Can you explain to me, as no-one has yet done, why there are so many United fans who think we are biased against United?

Speaking of making stuff up to back up their argument, what did I say in the post that you quoted that was made up?
 
Re: MUEN -whats gone wrong

de niro said:
cos it was biased in 1967 and looking at the comments on here for quite some time now it hasn't changed. you can't hide anymore with so many eyes and ears on line. you print bollocks and bluemooners will be on it like a flash.

So, because you think it was biased in 1967, nothing can have changed? Or could it just be that paranoia was alive and well in 1967, as well?
Why do you listen to the people on Bluemoon who say it is biased, and dismiss those who say it isn't? Could it be that it is YOU who have an agenda, or a warped view of things, rather than the MEN?
Those people whose viewpoints you listen to, who say we are biased, have also not come up with any evidence, but you still listen to them. As I've said, people come on here and tell lies all the time, but you seem happy to base your view on those lies.

I will ask you yet again- what possible reason could we have for being biased against a large section of our target audience?
 

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