mufc evictions

[JM Mcr]

That just goes to show what a bunch of glory-hunting bastards follow your club, doesn't it?

Yes and we're unique in that. I mean it's not like your own club's average gates jumped by nearly 23,000 in your title winning season of 67/68 compared to the 14,753 you averaged 3 seasons prior to that is it?

wow thats selective pal

you seem a little bitter?

your pathetic 35K average in 93 doesn't cover you in glory especially as you were champions whereas you quote numbers for us in the second division

yes your attendances are massive.......really really MASSIVE

hold on to that pal

you'll be claiming your floodlights are massive as well too before long

shame your team is shit

lol

My original point was that I believe Utds support increased in the 60s as much as a result of on field success as from a wave of post munich sympathy. The above reply that you quote was a tongue in cheek reply to the glory hunters jibe I'd received. It is a fact that all teams support increases with success, it's also a fact that we'd have struggled to have averaged much above 35,000 in 92/93 as the Stretford End was being converted from terracing to seats and was closed for much of the season before being partially opened towards the end of the season (the front few rows only).

Our floodlights aren't massive, in fact they're rather small and perched on top of the stadium and our team isn't shit but is mediocre at best :-)<br /><br />-- Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:17 am --<br /><br />

I wasn't really talking about matchgoing fans. I was talking about the upsurge in support nationwide following Munich which was the catalyst for the creation of the armchair plastic fans even though in those days they had to make do with newspapers and a bit of radio to follow the team. I should maybe add that I'm old enough to remember all this first hand.



There's the very well documented case of Albert Scanlon who survived the crash but whose form was sporadic afterwards largely due to psychological trauma. He was eventually offloaded to Newcastle and Busby told him when he left that if he ever hit hard times to make sure he contacted him and he would help him out. Some years later Scanlon did hit hard times and turned up at OT on a match day. When he saw Busby arrive Scanlon approached him and spoke to him but Busby blanked him completely and walked away. Scanlon bitterly recalled that he even had to pay to watch the match out of his own pocket.

I'm aware of Albert Scanlon and there's no doubt he was left feeling bitter about the manner of his departure from Old Trafford, and the lack of support survivors received from the club at the time, though he seemed to have overcome that bitterness later in his life and regularly attended games (even presenting the premier league trophy a couple of years before he died, and attending the 2008 champions league final as a guest of the club). It was reported there had been a breakdown in the relationship between him and Busby over "issues in his personal life" that are believed to have prompted his transfer to Newcastle, which may explain (tho not condone) Busby blanking him in the story you related above. I still don't go along with your assertion that Busby didn't give a fuck about the Munich survivors or familes of the victims. At the end of the day mate he was a survivor himself so must have had some empathy with them, at the very least.

Survivor , didn't know it was WW5

What is the correct term then for someone who lives through a crash that kills many people? With my limited grasp of english I thought the word was survivor but please enlighten me......

 

[Balti]

Yes and we're unique in that. I mean it's not like your own club's average gates jumped by nearly 23,000 in your title winning season of 67/68 compared to the 14,753 you averaged 3 seasons prior to that is it?

wow thats selective pal

you seem a little bitter?

your pathetic 35K average in 93 doesn't cover you in glory especially as you were champions whereas you quote numbers for us in the second division

yes your attendances are massive.......really really MASSIVE

hold on to that pal

you'll be claiming your floodlights are massive as well too before long

shame your team is shit

lol

My original point was that I believe Utds support increased in the 60s as much as a result of on field success as from a wave of post munich sympathy. The above reply that you quote was a tongue in cheek reply to the glory hunters jibe I'd received. It is a fact that all teams support increases with success, it's also a fact that we'd have struggled to have averaged much above 35,000 in 92/93 as the Stretford End was being converted from terracing to seats and was closed for much of the season before being partially opened towards the end of the season (the front few rows only).

Our floodlights aren't massive, in fact they're rather small and perched on top of the stadium and our team isn't shit but is mediocre at best :-)

still at least you have no empty seats ever

and a wonderful manager

 

[JM Mcr]

wow thats selective pal

you seem a little bitter?

your pathetic 35K average in 93 doesn't cover you in glory especially as you were champions whereas you quote numbers for us in the second division

yes your attendances are massive.......really really MASSIVE

hold on to that pal

you'll be claiming your floodlights are massive as well too before long

shame your team is shit

lol

My original point was that I believe Utds support increased in the 60s as much as a result of on field success as from a wave of post munich sympathy. The above reply that you quote was a tongue in cheek reply to the glory hunters jibe I'd received. It is a fact that all teams support increases with success, it's also a fact that we'd have struggled to have averaged much above 35,000 in 92/93 as the Stretford End was being converted from terracing to seats and was closed for much of the season before being partially opened towards the end of the season (the front few rows only).

Our floodlights aren't massive, in fact they're rather small and perched on top of the stadium and our team isn't shit but is mediocre at best :-)

still at least you have no empty seats ever

and a wonderful manager

No, we have plenty of empty seats at times but nearly always have more full seats than City

and a new manager who's struggling right now but who I think should be given time to see if he can turn things around

 

[Balti]

My original point was that I believe Utds support increased in the 60s as much as a result of on field success as from a wave of post munich sympathy. The above reply that you quote was a tongue in cheek reply to the glory hunters jibe I'd received. It is a fact that all teams support increases with success, it's also a fact that we'd have struggled to have averaged much above 35,000 in 92/93 as the Stretford End was being converted from terracing to seats and was closed for much of the season before being partially opened towards the end of the season (the front few rows only).

Our floodlights aren't massive, in fact they're rather small and perched on top of the stadium and our team isn't shit but is mediocre at best :-)

still at least you have no empty seats ever

and a wonderful manager

No, we have plenty of empty seats at times but nearly always have more full seats than City

and a new manager who's struggling right now but who I think should be given time to see if he can turn things around

We all agree mate

#SOD

 

[JM Mcr]

still at least you have no empty seats ever

and a wonderful manager

No, we have plenty of empty seats at times but nearly always have more full seats than City

and a new manager who's struggling right now but who I think should be given time to see if he can turn things around

We all agree mate

#SOD

I'm sure you all do lol

 

[Jack74]

Yes and we're unique in that. I mean it's not like your own club's average gates jumped by nearly 23,000 in your title winning season of 67/68 compared to the 14,753 you averaged 3 seasons prior to that is it?

wow thats selective pal

you seem a little bitter?

your pathetic 35K average in 93 doesn't cover you in glory especially as you were champions whereas you quote numbers for us in the second division

yes your attendances are massive.......really really MASSIVE

hold on to that pal

you'll be claiming your floodlights are massive as well too before long

shame your team is shit

lol

My original point was that I believe Utds support increased in the 60s as much as a result of on field success as from a wave of post munich sympathy. The above reply that you quote was a tongue in cheek reply to the glory hunters jibe I'd received. It is a fact that all teams support increases with success, it's also a fact that we'd have struggled to have averaged much above 35,000 in 92/93 as the Stretford End was being converted from terracing to seats and was closed for much of the season before being partially opened towards the end of the season (the front few rows only).

Our floodlights aren't massive, in fact they're rather small and perched on top of the stadium and our team isn't shit but is mediocre at best :-)

-- Sun Feb 16, 2014 1:17 am --

I'm aware of Albert Scanlon and there's no doubt he was left feeling bitter about the manner of his departure from Old Trafford, and the lack of support survivors received from the club at the time, though he seemed to have overcome that bitterness later in his life and regularly attended games (even presenting the premier league trophy a couple of years before he died, and attending the 2008 champions league final as a guest of the club). It was reported there had been a breakdown in the relationship between him and Busby over "issues in his personal life" that are believed to have prompted his transfer to Newcastle, which may explain (tho not condone) Busby blanking him in the story you related above. I still don't go along with your assertion that Busby didn't give a fuck about the Munich survivors or familes of the victims. At the end of the day mate he was a survivor himself so must have had some empathy with them, at the very least.

Survivor , didn't know it was WW5

What is the correct term then for someone who lives through a crash that kills many people? With my limited grasp of english I thought the word was survivor but please enlighten me......

Lucky ?

 

[I'm With Stupid]

JM is a good poster and doesn't warrant that being thrown at him. As much as what you say is true, you can't hold the average United fan responsible for it and unless any of them state that they do things "the right way" I wouldn't be inclined to use what happened in the aftermath of Munich against them. Let's also not forget that our own club treated Neil Young appallingly for years so United don't have exclusivity when it comes to this behaviour.

Every club probably has some dirt to dig. The difference is that those lot are still doing it. Still using the Munich air disaster for cynical marketing purposes. It says a lot that during the 50th anniversary game, it was our club that actually showed the most respect to the occasion, while the rags just used it as another platform for their sponsors.

 

[Vienna_70]

JM is a good poster and doesn't warrant that being thrown at him. As much as what you say is true, you can't hold the average United fan responsible for it and unless any of them state that they do things "the right way" I wouldn't be inclined to use what happened in the aftermath of Munich against them. Let's also not forget that our own club treated Neil Young appallingly for years so United don't have exclusivity when it comes to this behaviour.

Every club probably has some dirt to dig. The difference is that those lot are still doing it. Still using the Munich air disaster for cynical marketing purposes. It says a lot that during the 50th anniversary game, it was our club that actually showed the most respect to the occasion, while the rags just used it as another platform for their sponsors.

I remember a certain piss-can from Govan chewed gum like a cow chewing the cud right through the minute's silence.

Very respectful.

 

[laserblue]

I'm aware of Albert Scanlon and there's no doubt he was left feeling bitter about the manner of his departure from Old Trafford, and the lack of support survivors received from the club at the time, though he seemed to have overcome that bitterness later in his life and regularly attended games (even presenting the premier league trophy a couple of years before he died, and attending the 2008 champions league final as a guest of the club). It was reported there had been a breakdown in the relationship between him and Busby over "issues in his personal life" that are believed to have prompted his transfer to Newcastle, which may explain (tho not condone) Busby blanking him in the story you related above. I still don't go along with your assertion that Busby didn't give a fuck about the Munich survivors or familes of the victims. At the end of the day mate he was a survivor himself so must have had some empathy with them, at the very least.

So it wasn't Busby who fired Johnny Berry by letter because he was too ashamed to do it face to face? The same Johnny Berry (plus others) who were evicted from their club houses when they were still recovering from their serious injuries.

 

[Buckley Mug]

I was 12 my brother was 10 in Feb 58. Both city supporters. Our mother who was not interested in football. Said l hope you will start supporting united now. We said no. WHY! But quite a few kids in school did possible pressure from parents