city to sign kaka, villa, messi ...... ALL rag loving, red top paper shite, printed so when we dont signC_T_I_D said:There will probably be a degree of hostility to this thread saying "give him time" or telling me to support the manager. My simple answer? No, because we haven't got time. If he gets time then we will be fucking relegated, I'm telling you!
My points are the following:
1. Mark Hughes has not got results. I know luck has gone against us with suspensions, injuries et al and I know we've done alright in the UEFA Cup but the fact of the matter is we're two points from the relegation place and we're out of both the Carling Cup and the FA Cup courtesy of Brighton and Hove Albion and Nottingham Forest, the latter rather convincingly! At home he has won 5 and lost 5 in the premiership and away from home we've won once, drew four and lost 5 - his total record reading won 6, drew 4, lost 10 - quite unacceptable!!
2. The playing staff situation looks a lot worse and if we're going to replace Hughes with Mancini or Hiddink then it needs to happen sooner rather than later so we can sort ourselves out in the transfer window. Thankfully, to his credit, Hughes has bought pretty well in the transfer market but we're left with quite a lot of shit too - Vassell, Benjani, Danny Mills, Michael Ball, Gelson Fernandes (what does he actually do?), Tal Ben Haim and Jo. The problem is we need to sort out the defence yet if SWP, Elano (who may stay under Mancini), Robinho and Ireland are out then we're fucked basically and that needs addressing too. I know they'll be a total overhaul in the summer, but we need to preserve our premier league status primarily!
3. We've gone from the start of the season when we were talking about Kaká, Villa, Messi, Tranny and big names like that and believing we'd qualify for some type of European Football to contemplating players coming in like Bellamy, Darren Bent, Scott Parker who are shite and like someone said on another thread - we need to be aiming for middle ground and building up gradually. Bridge is a good start, we need a new manager to obtain that middle ground because Hughes pulling power is questionable.
4. This is probably the most pivitol and this is what Hughes can be thankful for. These are arabs and thus, they are very loyal and patient yet don't underestimate their desire to see us heading in the right direction sooner rather than later. We are the standout business that are doing absolute shite and it'll make them look like a laughing stock to the fair. The funny thing is we laughed at West Ham for offering stupid wages for average/ shit players and now we're doing the same - karma?
5. His relationship with the fans. Am I the only one that feels that because he was an ex rag and because he has the personality of a turnip, not even that offers him any hope on the terraces. So many people come up to me nowadays and says that he is the cancer of this club and that they never wanted him anyway, and I'd have to agree. What did he achieve with Wales and Blackburn? Where is his winning mentality that Robinho craves?
I'm not going to go on and on about the dressing room because they're rumours but the cold hard fact of the matter is his record in the league, us being out of two cups and the sort of player he is aiming for in the transfer window (by his own admission!) He's not the man to lead us forward people, I'm sorry, but he's not.
You're welcome to back him and credit to you for that, but it's just something I cannot do. He has wrecked last season and set us back two years or so in the ten year project.
C_T_I_D said:If he gets time then we will be fucking relegated, I'm telling you!
biffa said:I might not agree with everything CTID says but I do believe Hughes has put us back by 2 years.
Not too bad, I've waited thirty odd years, but I don't think Robinho will want to wait another couple of years.
biffa said:That says more about you! All we had to do was kick on from 9th place last season, and the reality of signing those kind of players would be more apparent. You've just fell for Hughes' bullshit of "this squad isn't good enough." - one of the best squads I've seen at City in thirty odd years.Bluemoon115 said:So you thought we were gonna be signing Messi and Kaka this transfer window?
Says more about you than the manager.
Disturbance said:biffa said:I might not agree with everything CTID says but I do believe Hughes has put us back by 2 years.
Not too bad, I've waited thirty odd years, but I don't think Robinho will want to wait another couple of years.
This is one of the things that worries me. If Hughes stays it is inevitable that we will finish out of the top 10 and have no chance of qualifying for Europe next year. Robinho has shown he has the quality to be kind of player to build a team around yet there is a strong possibility he will leave if we don't make progress under Hughes. This will set us back hugely.
CTID i admire your way with words and your affection to the club... However i cannot get my head around your comment about Hughes wrecking last year ?? What was there to wreck.[/quote]DTKOAG said:[You're welcome to back him and credit to you for that, but it's just something I cannot do. He has wrecked last season and set us back two years or so in the ten year project.
coleridge said:Disturbance said:This is one of the things that worries me. If Hughes stays it is inevitable that we will finish out of the top 10 and have no chance of qualifying for Europe next year. Robinho has shown he has the quality to be kind of player to build a team around yet there is a strong possibility he will leave if we don't make progress under Hughes. This will set us back hugely.
Then logical dictates that, in order to keep Robinho and encourage others to come, a new 'big name' manage is needed in the summer, regardless of what you think of Hughes. In the end, failure to qualify for Europe is his responsibility, not the players. I don't think [and pray] that we will get relegated, but didn't AC Milan come back from that recently?
svennis pennis said:All I see at the moment is regression with a stronger squad which is alarming.
The one thing he has done is expose the weaknesses in the squad, but has also exposed his at the same time. We are in the position to change the squad but all the money in the world will not change Hughes technical and tactical ability, as well as his personality.
C_T_I_D said:At the same time Billy, Robinho will have a relegation clause in his contract which will say if we are relegated he can leave for said amount which will be pre-agreed and we won't be able to control that unfortunately. This is speculation, I don't know that for definate but that is a presumtion I have full confidence in being correct.
uwe roswel said:give im time and sign john o`gay from da scum.
uwe roswel said:give im time and sign john o`gay from da scum.
BillyShears said:uwe roswel said:give im time and sign john o`gay from da scum.
You fuckin' rags are DESPERATE to get rid of O'Shea aren't you...every single one of you fuckwits that signs up immediately suggests we should sign him...
sky red raguwe roswel said:give im time and sign john o`gay from da scum.
uwe roswel said:give im time and sign john o`gay from da scum.