Myth. protecting the central defence

daxman said:
6one said:
don't get the original post's point. He seems to be a bit confused.
That was what I got too!

I can assure you the original poster was not confused. He was making more than one point, and they were quite subtle, so I can understand why some people would not comprehend. Maybe you need bullet points.
Hey ho.
 
paulgmurphyhumphries said:
daxman said:
6one said:
don't get the original post's point. He seems to be a bit confused.
That was what I got too!

I can assure you the original poster was not confused. He was making more than one point, and they were quite subtle, so I can understand why some people would not comprehend. Maybe you need bullet points.
Hey ho.

You are/were confused.

You said that there is a general consensus that Pellegrini is offering extra protection for the defence. It's clear that the opposite is the common view of the moment.

You also suggest Nastasic may fill the role of CDM in the long-term. Very, very odd.
 
I did not say General concensus.
The fact is that one or two posts have made the point that extra help from the midfield has been deployed to help the defence. Since then many posters have agreed with this point or taken it as the default. That was my first point. The second was that central midfielders in a team that has spent hundreds of millions should already have these qualities.
The third point regarding Nastastic. Would make a great defensive midfielder
1 reads the game better than any other City player
2 excellent tackler
3 great distribution
4 very mobile
5 covers attacking runs
6 rarely out of position.

6one, I suggest yo stick to posts such as Jovetic should play every every match, you will be easily able to understand that one. The answer is no by the way.
6one said:
paulgmurphyhumphries said:
daxman said:
That was what I got too!

I can assure you the original poster was not confused. He was making more than one point, and they were quite subtle, so I can understand why some people would not comprehend. Maybe you need bullet points.
Hey ho.

You are/were confused.

You said that there is a general consensus that Pellegrini is offering extra protection for the defence. It's clear that the opposite is the common view of the moment.

You also suggest Nastasic may fill the role of CDM in the long-term. Very, very odd.
 
paulgmurphyhumphries said:
I did not say General concensus.
The fact is that one or two posts have made the point that extra help from the midfield has been deployed to help the defence. Since then many posters have agreed with this point or taken it as the default. That was my first point. The second was that central midfielders in a team that has spent hundreds of millions should already have these qualities.
The third point regarding Nastastic. Would make a great defensive midfielder
1 reads the game better than any other City player
2 excellent tackler
3 great distribution
4 very mobile
5 covers attacking runs
6 rarely out of position.

Cant agree with you there. The defence IMO has not had enough protection yet this season, Yaya and Fernandinho haven't clicked. Nastastic IMO couldn't play that role at the top level as he isn't athletic enough, you look at the best DM's and there is no comparison. Martinez, De Rossi, Alonso etc etc
 
paulgmurphyhumphries said:
The fact is that one or two posts have made the point that extra help from the midfield has been deployed to help the defence. Since then many posters have agreed with this point or taken it as the default.

I cannot understand how on earth you have come to that conclusion.

No one has said that, and no one who has watched our football could say that.

It's a matter of opinion whether one thinks Nastasic would suit CDM. I highly doubt that.
 
Vincent company joined City as a Centre half ? No, now if he does not play, we are panicking like someone from Dads Army.
Last night as soon as ferdinand and toure switched we looked a different team. If you noticed they switched that is.
My opinions come from a strong coaching and qualifications background. You are entitled to disagree but please don't dismiss them.
 
paulgmurphyhumphries said:
Vincent company joined City as a Centre half ? No, now if he does not play, we are panicking like someone from Dads Army.
Last night as soon as ferdinand and toure switched we looked a different team. If you noticed they switched that is.
My opinions come from a strong coaching and qualifications background. You are entitled to disagree but please don't dismiss them.

Pretty much just mentioned this in the Fernandinho thread. Only one really stays back to choke the midfield when playing a high line which I believe suits our players and Pellers playing style. I can see Yaya and Fernandinho forming a pretty good partnership<br /><br />-- Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:13 pm --<br /><br />
paulgmurphyhumphries said:
Vincent company joined City as a Centre half ? No, now if he does not play, we are panicking like someone from Dads Army.
Last night as soon as ferdinand and toure switched we looked a different team. If you noticed they switched that is.
My opinions come from a strong coaching and qualifications background. You are entitled to disagree but please don't dismiss them.

Pretty much just mentioned this in the Fernandinho thread. Only one really stays back to choke the midfield when playing a high line which I believe suits our players and Pellers playing style. I can see Yaya and Fernandinho forming a pretty good partnership
 
All players defend and attack, that is football and everyone already knows it.
 
paulgmurphyhumphries said:
Vincent company joined City as a Centre half ? No, now if he does not play, we are panicking like someone from Dads Army.
Last night as soon as ferdinand and toure switched we looked a different team. If you noticed they switched that is.
My opinions come from a strong coaching and qualifications background. You are entitled to disagree but please don't dismiss them.
PMH, you are correct in your assesment of the difference between the first and second half tactics, although it wasn't only this switch that happened. First half, Yaya was the player picking the ball up off the defenders, and this changed in the second half (the role switch), however, the more fundemental change was the tempo by the whole team changed. The reduction in touches and the ball ball moving quicker between players was the fundemental change. I personally think both Yaya and Ferndy can do each others roles (DM/AM) but only as long as the tempo is there can the interchangability between them be effective.
 

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