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Ragnarok said:
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I'll take the bet.
greasedupdeafguy
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If he isn't a success you would have to question our scouts. We cant keep buying players for massive fees and then they turn out to be flops.lust overlord said:Whether he'd be good enough to play for us regularily is questionable,however don't agree that he is a bad player.greasedupdeafguy said:This, he is just a bad playerLancet Fluke said:I've asked people this several times and never feel like I've had a satisfactory answer. What do you see in Savic that makes you think he will go on to be a great player? I honestly see nothing. He isn't quick, he isn't strong, he isn't particularly good in the air, he isn't particularly good on the ground and he doesn't seem to read the game particularly well. He has no mental strength and subsequently fell apart in some games having made huge errors. That to me is not a recipe for potential greatness.
I'm not saying it can't happen but the leaps he will have to make to achieve even mediocrity are substantial so to acheive greatness is going to be some task for the lad. I don't see how he can do it when he seemed scared witless at times by his situation. All players make mistakes but if you don't respond well to making mistakes then you're going to struggle imo. I doubt Baresi was world class at 21 but I doubt he was anywhere near as bad as Savic is currently.
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Every player makes a mistake its when you make big mistakes every time you play thats a problem.mayo31 said:Let's see the reaction if natastic makes a mistake, if he does sign
Every transfer has an element of risk,particularily a young foreign lad thrown in at the deep end in the fastest,toughest league in the world imo.
Nastasic will adapt or he won't,I just wonder if we will be having a similar debate 12 or so months in the future.
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lust overlord said:Whether he'd be good enough to play for us regularily is questionable,however don't agree that he is a bad player.greasedupdeafguy said:This, he is just a bad playerLancet Fluke said:I've asked people this several times and never feel like I've had a satisfactory answer. What do you see in Savic that makes you think he will go on to be a great player? I honestly see nothing. He isn't quick, he isn't strong, he isn't particularly good in the air, he isn't particularly good on the ground and he doesn't seem to read the game particularly well. He has no mental strength and subsequently fell apart in some games having made huge errors. That to me is not a recipe for potential greatness.
I'm not saying it can't happen but the leaps he will have to make to achieve even mediocrity are substantial so to acheive greatness is going to be some task for the lad. I don't see how he can do it when he seemed scared witless at times by his situation. All players make mistakes but if you don't respond well to making mistakes then you're going to struggle imo. I doubt Baresi was world class at 21 but I doubt he was anywhere near as bad as Savic is currently.
-- Wed Aug 29, 2012 11:29 am --
Every player makes a mistake its when you make big mistakes every time you play thats a problem.mayo31 said:Let's see the reaction if natastic makes a mistake, if he does sign
Every transfer has an element of risk,particularily a young foreign lad thrown in at the deep end in the fastest,toughest league in the world imo.
Nastasic will adapt or he won't,I just wonder if we will be having a similar debate 12 or so months in the future.
There is a big difference between Savic and Nastasic imo. Savic hadn't played in a major league, he was 20 and was playing in Serbia wasn't he? Maybe the Serbian league is his level. This guy is younger and although he doesn't have a huge number of games under his belt, he has at least performed very well in a major European league. You're right all transfers represent a risk but with Nastasic we know he has the ability, it will be about whether he can adapt and whether he can continue to improve, with Savic (IMO) it was a punt on a player who looked decent in a shit league but who ultimately doesn't have the required ability.
Ok :). Best of luckKun Aguero said:Ragnarok said:Blootoof said:A week ban? Let me discuss this with my family first as this could be a life changer.
Well?
I'll take the bet.
LongsightM13
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A bit long, so apologies. But an interesting read
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/matija-nastasic-vidics-international-team-mate-can-shine-for-rivals-manchester-city/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-s ... ster-city/</a>?
Matija Nastasic: Vidic’s International Team-mate Can Shine For Rivals Manchester City
The young defender was one of the few success stories for Fiorentina last year, and has drawn interest from Roberto Mancini. Here's everything you need to know about him...
The Serbian centre-back had a breakout year in Serie A last season, and Manchester City are reportedly close to signing him.
Where once Serie A was the must-go destination for the game’s brightest talents this summer has seen an exodus of not only established stars but emerging talents who had been given their first break in Italy.
It was Fiorentina’s former sporting director Pantaleo Corvino who trailed and landed Matija Nastasić, as he had done with the likes of Stevan Jovetic and Mirko Vucinic at Lecce in the past, through his excellent networking in the Balkan states.
The Viola were seeking a young and talented defender to ease into the first team although the club expected the then 18-year-old, who had been playing for FK Partizan’s feeder club Teletoptik, to spend part of the year on loan at either another Serie A club or most likely in Serie B.
It did not take long into pre-season to persuade the club’s hierarchy that the strapping teenager had not only the physical attributes and technique to make the breakthrough, but also the mental fortitude.
However, coach and fellow Serb Sinisa Mihajlovic only used the youngster sparingly as a substitute, standing by his more experience defenders.
With Rossi deploying a three-man defence, Nastasić was one of the first names on the team sheet although he demonstrated his versatility when he was switched to the left side of the backline for the run-in
However, after he was shown the door on the back of a poor run, new man in charge Delio Rossi – who would lose his job after throwing a few punches at Adem Ljajic – had no hesitation handing Nastasić a starting place.
That debut came in Rossi’s first game in charge in November in what was the pressure atmosphere of a home match against title-chasing AC Milan.
By the end of ninety minutes where Zlatan Ibrahimovic had been marked out of the game and the Viola had secured a valuable point following a goalless draw, the questions were being asked as to why it had taken so long to give such a natural talent his chance.
In that eye-catching display, Nastasić occupied the central defensive position and he would go on to do so through the turn of the year as he turned 19, scoring two goals in two games – the first a composed close-range finish against Catania and then a towering header at Parma.
With Rossi deploying a three-man defence, Nastasić was one of the first names on the team sheet although he demonstrated his versatility when he was switched to the left side of the backline for the run-in and it was in that position he started the new season last weekend in a 2-1 home win over Udinese under his third coach in a year; Vincenzo Montella.
With his natural pace and composure on the ball not to mention his raw strength, he is destined to dominate centre of defence but has he recently commented he is still learning his trade so he is willing to play in whatever position he is required.
Two full caps have since followed and it is unlikely that now in charge of his country’s fortunes Mihajlovic is likely to hold him back during the upcoming World Cup qualifying campaign.
His international trajectory has been equally upward, coming through the Serbia under-17 and 19s to be promoted to the Under-21s on his move to Italy.
Two full caps have since followed and it is unlikely that now in charge of his country’s fortunes Mihajlovic is likely to hold him back during the upcoming World Cup qualifying campaign.
There had already been reported enquiries in the last winter break but Fiorentina were at that stage in no hurry to sell.
However, as with the majority of cash-strapped Italian clubs a half-decent offer – and in reality it is only going to come from abroad – and they will accept it.
This is especially true of defenders who even if they are of the classy variety can be replaced by solid no nonsense operators but if Fiorentina cash in then only opposition strikers in Italy will be celebrating.
<a class="postlink" href="http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-sport/matija-nastasic-vidics-international-team-mate-can-shine-for-rivals-manchester-city/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.sabotagetimes.com/football-s ... ster-city/</a>?
Matija Nastasic: Vidic’s International Team-mate Can Shine For Rivals Manchester City
The young defender was one of the few success stories for Fiorentina last year, and has drawn interest from Roberto Mancini. Here's everything you need to know about him...
The Serbian centre-back had a breakout year in Serie A last season, and Manchester City are reportedly close to signing him.
Where once Serie A was the must-go destination for the game’s brightest talents this summer has seen an exodus of not only established stars but emerging talents who had been given their first break in Italy.
It was Fiorentina’s former sporting director Pantaleo Corvino who trailed and landed Matija Nastasić, as he had done with the likes of Stevan Jovetic and Mirko Vucinic at Lecce in the past, through his excellent networking in the Balkan states.
The Viola were seeking a young and talented defender to ease into the first team although the club expected the then 18-year-old, who had been playing for FK Partizan’s feeder club Teletoptik, to spend part of the year on loan at either another Serie A club or most likely in Serie B.
It did not take long into pre-season to persuade the club’s hierarchy that the strapping teenager had not only the physical attributes and technique to make the breakthrough, but also the mental fortitude.
However, coach and fellow Serb Sinisa Mihajlovic only used the youngster sparingly as a substitute, standing by his more experience defenders.
With Rossi deploying a three-man defence, Nastasić was one of the first names on the team sheet although he demonstrated his versatility when he was switched to the left side of the backline for the run-in
However, after he was shown the door on the back of a poor run, new man in charge Delio Rossi – who would lose his job after throwing a few punches at Adem Ljajic – had no hesitation handing Nastasić a starting place.
That debut came in Rossi’s first game in charge in November in what was the pressure atmosphere of a home match against title-chasing AC Milan.
By the end of ninety minutes where Zlatan Ibrahimovic had been marked out of the game and the Viola had secured a valuable point following a goalless draw, the questions were being asked as to why it had taken so long to give such a natural talent his chance.
In that eye-catching display, Nastasić occupied the central defensive position and he would go on to do so through the turn of the year as he turned 19, scoring two goals in two games – the first a composed close-range finish against Catania and then a towering header at Parma.
With Rossi deploying a three-man defence, Nastasić was one of the first names on the team sheet although he demonstrated his versatility when he was switched to the left side of the backline for the run-in and it was in that position he started the new season last weekend in a 2-1 home win over Udinese under his third coach in a year; Vincenzo Montella.
With his natural pace and composure on the ball not to mention his raw strength, he is destined to dominate centre of defence but has he recently commented he is still learning his trade so he is willing to play in whatever position he is required.
Two full caps have since followed and it is unlikely that now in charge of his country’s fortunes Mihajlovic is likely to hold him back during the upcoming World Cup qualifying campaign.
His international trajectory has been equally upward, coming through the Serbia under-17 and 19s to be promoted to the Under-21s on his move to Italy.
Two full caps have since followed and it is unlikely that now in charge of his country’s fortunes Mihajlovic is likely to hold him back during the upcoming World Cup qualifying campaign.
There had already been reported enquiries in the last winter break but Fiorentina were at that stage in no hurry to sell.
However, as with the majority of cash-strapped Italian clubs a half-decent offer – and in reality it is only going to come from abroad – and they will accept it.
This is especially true of defenders who even if they are of the classy variety can be replaced by solid no nonsense operators but if Fiorentina cash in then only opposition strikers in Italy will be celebrating.
johnny crossan
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Good he's a left footer
twinkletoes
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So he's deffo going to be part of our new 3-5-2 system
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