Negredo

Vienna_70 said:
tiggsywiggsywoo said:
Loved Negrado, but it's Tevez we're missing.

His goals, yes, but not his attitude.
His attitude when he was on the pitch in all bar one game (Newcastle at home when he purposely tried to get booked thus suspended for his fifth booking) was almost unrivalled. His effort levels when on the pitch were unquestionable. A great player.

When not on the pitch he just didn't care about this club that much but he's not the only one - hundreds of players don't give a fuck about the clubs they play for.
 
stony said:
de niro said:
he was bang in form and was vital to the side. for pellers to risk him in a game we were 6-0 up from the first leg was sheer madness. that was the start of the decline.

One of the best players ever to pull on the shirt. I still marvel at that pass with the outside of his boot.

No he wasn't.
 
KippaxCitizen said:
Vienna_70 said:
tiggsywiggsywoo said:
Loved Negrado, but it's Tevez we're missing.

His goals, yes, but not his attitude.
His attitude when he was on the pitch in all bar one game (Newcastle at home when he purposely tried to get booked thus suspended for his fifth booking) was almost unrivalled. His effort levels when on the pitch were unquestionable. A great player.

When not on the pitch he just didn't care about this club that much but he's not the only one - hundreds of players don't give a fuck about the clubs they play for.

There's a big difference between not caring for the club you play for and continuously moaning about wanting to leave, moaning about the City it is in and fucking off on a golfing holiday while still under contract. And I really don't buy that we are missing him at all we have managed just fine without him and Aguero is twice the player he could ever dream of being. Good riddance in my eyes.
 
a fantastic player. we miss him so much, a proper centre forward, a real proper striker...that sergio goal at west ham away where he did the dummy...magic...against spurs the way he tricked his way round the defender to score the 5th goal was it...
i still think his sale was the worst business decision of all time.
with that man in our side we were the most feared team on the planet. i am so glad i can say i saw Negredo play for City.what a player
 
He missed a couple of decent chances that would have put Valencia 3-1 against Real yesterday and then Isco scored to level at 2-2.

I loved him when he was on form but could not fathom why his form dropped off so badly.I was not happy when he was loaned/sold but now it seems like a good decision.

I do not think this season would have been any different for us if he had stayed.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
a fantastic player. we miss him so much, a proper centre forward, a real proper striker...that sergio goal at west ham away where he did the dummy...magic...against spurs the way he tricked his way round the defender to score the 5th goal was it...
i still think his sale was the worst business decision of all time.
with that man in our side we were the most feared team on the planet. i am so glad i can say i saw Negredo play for City.what a player
All roads point to personal reasons which meant his stay in Manchester was untenable and we are going to make a profit on a player (FOR ONCE!) how on earth is it a bad decision. Never mind 'the worst business decision of all time'.
 
CTID101 said:
dennishasdoneit said:
a fantastic player. we miss him so much, a proper centre forward, a real proper striker...that sergio goal at west ham away where he did the dummy...magic...against spurs the way he tricked his way round the defender to score the 5th goal was it...
i still think his sale was the worst business decision of all time.
with that man in our side we were the most feared team on the planet. i am so glad i can say i saw Negredo play for City.what a player
All roads point to personal reasons which meant his stay in Manchester was untenable and we are going to make a profit on a player (FOR ONCE!) how on earth is it a bad decision. Never mind 'the worst business decision of all time'.

not everything that can be counted counts.
last season with negredo, we smashed over a 100 goals,won the title and the etihad was full for the last few games of a glorious season...

this season........oh great, we made a profit on a deal.

imo selling one of your ,most high scoring forwards and not replacing him for 6 months is the worst business decision of all time.
 
People who say we miss him should check out Valencia... he's been a flop and they're considering selling him as soon as they pay us what they owe us (which they have tried to weasel out of but can't). He's played over 22' in only 1 of Valencia's last 9 games. Making a profit on a near 30-year-old off his greatest purple patch (which will not be repeated based on evidence since) is one of City's best ever sales especially when you consider he begged City to let him go because he was so unhappy, which he admitted himself. Had we kept him, the likelihood is we'd have the Negredo of the second half of last season, not the phenomenon of the first six months.
 
LoveCity said:
People who say we miss him should check out Valencia... he's been a flop and they're considering selling him as soon as they pay us what they owe us (which they have tried to weasel out of but can't). He's played over 22' in only 1 of Valencia's last 9 games. Making a profit on a near 30-year-old off his greatest purple patch (which will not be repeated based on evidence since) is one of City's best ever sales especially when you consider he literally (yes, literally) begged City to let him go because he was so unhappy, which he admitted himself. Had we kept him, the likelihood is we'd have the Negredo of the second half of last season, not the phenomenon of the first six months.

but you cant say that for sure can you?
its just a guess.
And,selling him at the end of a transfer window leaving him without a replacement for 6 months of a season is still the worst decision of all time.
imo
 
His performances haven't been great at Valencia, so much so that they wanted to get out of their obligation to buy him.

I think this was definitely a good deal we made. He played for us and helped us win the league and we sold him for a good price when his form began to decline. If he stayed and put in the same poor performances that he was since Jan last year then people here would have said we should have sold him. Like some say about Yaya right now.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
LoveCity said:
People who say we miss him should check out Valencia... he's been a flop and they're considering selling him as soon as they pay us what they owe us (which they have tried to weasel out of but can't). He's played over 22' in only 1 of Valencia's last 9 games. Making a profit on a near 30-year-old off his greatest purple patch (which will not be repeated based on evidence since) is one of City's best ever sales especially when you consider he literally (yes, literally) begged City to let him go because he was so unhappy, which he admitted himself. Had we kept him, the likelihood is we'd have the Negredo of the second half of last season, not the phenomenon of the first six months.

but you cant say that for sure can you?
its just a guess.
And,selling him at the end of a transfer window leaving him without a replacement for 6 months of a season is still the worst decision of all time.
imo

Of course... everything that doesn't happen is a guess, but there is strong evidence to suggest he wouldn't be the same player because:

1. Rubbish in the second half of the season for us.
2. Rubbish since he came back from injury for Valencia.

5 goals in 28 appearances (14 starts) for him in Spain. He had a horrible miss against Real Madrid at weekend too that pissed off Valencia fans even more. And yes, the reports say they're so disappointed by him they are seriously considering selling him for a loss once they pay the obligatory fee to us this summer. Some talk of AC Milan trying to get him cheap, backed by Doyen. Valencia have a young striker called Paco Alcacer who outperforms Negredo. Bony is a better player than Negredo in 2015, just hasn't had much chance to show it because of injuries and less 4-4-2.
 
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
His performances haven't been great at Valencia, so much so that they wanted to get out of their obligation to buy him.

I think this was definitely a good deal we made. He played for us and helped us win the league and we sold him for a good price when his form began to decline. If he stayed and put in the same poor performances that he was since Jan last year then people here would have said we should have sold him. Like some say about Yaya right now.

so if you think we should have sold him would you, for the good of Manchester City fc ..

A. Sell him at the end of last season to the highest bidder thereby allowing maximum time to choose your ready made replacement and someone who will chip in with 26 goals as you attempt to defend your title, or

B. Sell him at the very end of the transfer window,not allowing yourself any time to bring in a replacement,plod on for 6 months without said replacement and when you do sign a new striker 6 months down the line you sign one who has to fly off to ACON for a month?

worst decision of all time mate, pellegrini has lost his job because of it, we lost the title.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
His performances haven't been great at Valencia, so much so that they wanted to get out of their obligation to buy him.

I think this was definitely a good deal we made. He played for us and helped us win the league and we sold him for a good price when his form began to decline. If he stayed and put in the same poor performances that he was since Jan last year then people here would have said we should have sold him. Like some say about Yaya right now.

so if you think we should have sold him would you, for the good of Manchester City fc ..

A. Sell him at the end of last season to the highest bidder thereby allowing maximum time to choose your ready made replacement and someone who will chip in with 26 goals as you attempt to defend your title, or

B. Sell him at the very end of the transfer window,not allowing yourself any time to bring in a replacement,plod on for 6 months without said replacement and when you do sign a new striker 6 months down the line you sign one who has to fly off to ACON for a month?

worst decision of all time mate, pellegrini has lost his job because of it, we lost the title.

The timing was not ideal but I don't know if we even had other clubs interested for him at the end of season.

His form was so poor not having a league goal since January. I think we just accepted a good offer that came for him.

Looks like there was a lot of assuming on the clubs part that at least 2 of Kun, Dzeko and Jov would stay fit for the season at a time. We then went for the positions that we definitely needed, a CDM and a central defender.

And on Bony, I think he might be seen as a longer term prospect. He was bought with clear knowledge that he'd be at ACON.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
His performances haven't been great at Valencia, so much so that they wanted to get out of their obligation to buy him.

I think this was definitely a good deal we made. He played for us and helped us win the league and we sold him for a good price when his form began to decline. If he stayed and put in the same poor performances that he was since Jan last year then people here would have said we should have sold him. Like some say about Yaya right now.

so if you think we should have sold him would you, for the good of Manchester City fc ..

A. Sell him at the end of last season to the highest bidder thereby allowing maximum time to choose your ready made replacement and someone who will chip in with 26 goals as you attempt to defend your title, or

B. Sell him at the very end of the transfer window,not allowing yourself any time to bring in a replacement,plod on for 6 months without said replacement and when you do sign a new striker 6 months down the line you sign one who has to fly off to ACON for a month?

worst decision of all time mate, pellegrini has lost his job because of it, we lost the title.


Sorry but that is nonsense.

A) why keep him, he was effectively deadwood after his injury and "external matters"
B) we received an offer which recouped our losses so we sold him. When our other forwards went absent, we had a very productive run.

At my last time of looking, Pellers hasn't lost his job
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
His performances haven't been great at Valencia, so much so that they wanted to get out of their obligation to buy him.

I think this was definitely a good deal we made. He played for us and helped us win the league and we sold him for a good price when his form began to decline. If he stayed and put in the same poor performances that he was since Jan last year then people here would have said we should have sold him. Like some say about Yaya right now.

so if you think we should have sold him would you, for the good of Manchester City fc ..

A. Sell him at the end of last season to the highest bidder thereby allowing maximum time to choose your ready made replacement and someone who will chip in with 26 goals as you attempt to defend your title, or

B. Sell him at the very end of the transfer window,not allowing yourself any time to bring in a replacement,plod on for 6 months without said replacement and when you do sign a new striker 6 months down the line you sign one who has to fly off to ACON for a month?

worst decision of all time mate, pellegrini has lost his job because of it, we lost the title.


Sorry but that is nonsense.

A) why keep him, he was effectively deadwood after his injury and "external matters"
B) we received an offer which recouped our losses so we sold him. When our other forwards went absent, we had a very productive run.

At my last time of looking, Pellers hasn't lost his job
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
His performances haven't been great at Valencia, so much so that they wanted to get out of their obligation to buy him.

I think this was definitely a good deal we made. He played for us and helped us win the league and we sold him for a good price when his form began to decline. If he stayed and put in the same poor performances that he was since Jan last year then people here would have said we should have sold him. Like some say about Yaya right now.

so if you think we should have sold him would you, for the good of Manchester City fc ..

A. Sell him at the end of last season to the highest bidder thereby allowing maximum time to choose your ready made replacement and someone who will chip in with 26 goals as you attempt to defend your title, or

B. Sell him at the very end of the transfer window,not allowing yourself any time to bring in a replacement,plod on for 6 months without said replacement and when you do sign a new striker 6 months down the line you sign one who has to fly off to ACON for a month?

worst decision of all time mate, pellegrini has lost his job because of it, we lost the title.

He's shit these days, you need to crawl out of his arse.
 
Jimbob said:
dennishasdoneit said:
Sergi0 Na5r1 said:
His performances haven't been great at Valencia, so much so that they wanted to get out of their obligation to buy him.

I think this was definitely a good deal we made. He played for us and helped us win the league and we sold him for a good price when his form began to decline. If he stayed and put in the same poor performances that he was since Jan last year then people here would have said we should have sold him. Like some say about Yaya right now.

so if you think we should have sold him would you, for the good of Manchester City fc ..

A. Sell him at the end of last season to the highest bidder thereby allowing maximum time to choose your ready made replacement and someone who will chip in with 26 goals as you attempt to defend your title, or

B. Sell him at the very end of the transfer window,not allowing yourself any time to bring in a replacement,plod on for 6 months without said replacement and when you do sign a new striker 6 months down the line you sign one who has to fly off to ACON for a month?

worst decision of all time mate, pellegrini has lost his job because of it, we lost the title.

He's shit these days, you need to crawl out of his arse.


he would,nt be the first striker to struggle on a return from injury, and your assesment that he is shit must be based on a his goal return? which is where his replacement bony comes in with...er a crap goal return.costing us even more money than negredo did.
fantastic bit of business that, and another reason to look closely at the important decisions being made by those responsible at our club..

imo he was worth keeping on, we owed him an opportunity to work through his bad run of form, which was clearly linked to the disruption caused by his injury and an extended period out of the team

if in fact you decide to sell, at least get a capable replacement, immediately, to ensure the manager is not left with a weaker hand in attempting to deliver the title once more and make progress in the champions league..

.
 
dennishasdoneit said:
Jimbob said:
dennishasdoneit said:
so if you think we should have sold him would you, for the good of Manchester City fc ..

A. Sell him at the end of last season to the highest bidder thereby allowing maximum time to choose your ready made replacement and someone who will chip in with 26 goals as you attempt to defend your title, or

B. Sell him at the very end of the transfer window,not allowing yourself any time to bring in a replacement,plod on for 6 months without said replacement and when you do sign a new striker 6 months down the line you sign one who has to fly off to ACON for a month?

worst decision of all time mate, pellegrini has lost his job because of it, we lost the title.

He's shit these days, you need to crawl out of his arse.


he would,nt be the first striker to struggle on a return from injury, and your assesment that he is shit must be based on a his goal return? which is where his replacement bony comes in with...er a crap goal return.costing us even more money than negredo did.
fantastic bit of business that, and another reason to look closely at the important decisions being made by those responsible at our club..

imo he was worth keeping on, we owed him an opportunity to work through his bad run of form, which was clearly linked to the disruption caused by his injury and an extended period out of the team

if in fact you decide to sell, at least get a capable replacement, immediately, to ensure the manager is not left with a weaker hand in attempting to deliver the title once more and make progress in the champions league..

.

It was a mistake not replacing him when we sold him, it definitely wasn't a mistake selling him for a profit, this season has justified that.
 

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