New CL Format Thoughts | After GW2 (pg13) | GW3 (pg33)

[69FACUPfinal]

The more I look at it the more I realise that Villa (pot 4) got a far better draw than us (pot 1).

I said that on draw day. I also think Dips and Arse got better draws than we did. We are never ( or very, very rarely) out of any cup draw pot first so my suspicions were alerted straightaway. There are those who believed the entire draw was rigged.

 

[Cobwebcat]

 

[Cobwebcat]

I said that on draw day. I also think Dips and Arse got better draws than we did. We are never ( or very, very rarely) out of any cup draw pot first so my suspicions were alerted straightaway. There are those who believed the entire draw was rigged.

Can’t agree with that. See my post above.

Celtic got the easiest draw. PSG the hardest. Our draw was relatively good.

I don’t believe any of the CL draws were rigged ever. By the way just about every fanbase thinks it is rigged against them.

Sometimes, being taken to court continually aside, the World isn’t against us.

 

[Gazza]

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That's fine but it's based on co-efficients? not current form.

 

[Cobwebcat]

That's fine but it's based on co-efficients? not current form.

It’s not UEFA coefficients if that’s what you mean.

It’s neither and both in a way. It’s based on elo ratings which optimise the likelihood of predicting a particular game outcome. To optimise that prediction form does play a part in the algorithm.

More importantly, for this discussion, it isn’t biased in favour or against anyone thinking the whole thing is rigged to prevent the progress of a particular team, in this case our team.

 

[shemnel]

i think the variability around the draw difficulties is pretty low.

 

[city warrior]

Remember how some were shitting on the format and how is not interesting just because we beat two pot 4 teams?

This format is way more competitive. You have Madrid, Bayern, Milan, Leipzig, Juventus, Atletico, PSG, Stuttgart, Atalanta, Bologna...pretty much out of the first 8. Even we are having way more problems than usual in group stages while we are having 2-3 great matches each day. I repeat: this is a fantastic format and way superior to the old one.

And before the people saying: if Madrid, Bayern had lost 2 games in the old format, they would have a hard time qualifying at all come; let me ask you: when was the last time that Madrid, Bayern actually struggled to qualify? Again thanks to this format.

 

[Keeper!]

Remember how some were shitting on the format and how is not interesting just because we beat two pot 4 teams?

This format is way more competitive. You have Madrid, Bayern, Milan, Leipzig, Juventus, Atletico, PSG, Stuttgart, Atalanta, Bologna...pretty much out of the first 8. Even we are having way more problems than usual in group stages while we are having 2-3 great matches each day. I repeat: this is a fantastic format and way superior to the old one.

And before the people saying: if Madrid, Bayern had lost 2 games in the old format, they would have a hard time qualifying at all come; let me ask you: when was the last time that Madrid, Bayern actually struggled to qualify? Again thanks to this format.

I would agree and I was against the changes at first.

It's made the competition far harder and far more open.

 

[richardtheref]

I think that the problem is that UEFA said every game would have jeopardy. Yet after 4 games there are at least 5 teams who cannot qualify for the KO stages. I think that livarpool only need 1 more win to guarantee being in the KO phase.

 

[dubblue]

I think that the problem is that UEFA said every game would have jeopardy. Yet after 4 games there are at least 5 teams who cannot qualify for the KO stages. I think that livarpool only need 1 more win to guarantee being in the KO phase.

For the best teams there is no jeopardy of any real meaning in any games. Having the top 24 qualifying makes the games feel like pre season friendlies in importance.