New football terminology is stupid

[Bigg Bigg Blue]

There's only one stat that matters in football and that's the score.

 

[tommybooth]

You can shove your yank bollocks stats up your arse while you are at it. Did we score more goals. Yes. We won then. End of stats.

 

[york away to this!]

"Your Mo Salahs, your Harry Kanes..."
Twattty, there's hardly loads of them!

 

[Axel Freed]

Pundits are twats and talk shite

The 1800 page media thread encapsulated in one perfect sentence

 

[dadnlad]

street football = england whats that mean

and Camp ?

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

Presume transitions has akready been mentioned, but fucking transitions.

One less syllable than counter attack though.

 

[hilts]

Please stop being sensibly analytical.

Not really I'm pretty sure Pep can work out if we are playing well or not. Its just data fodder that the yanks love in their sports. Paralysis by analysis l.

 

[normskih]

The "Assist" stat can be totally misleading. A pass bounces of someone arse and a player scores =Assist.
A great KdB 30 yard pin-point pass, a simple tap-in but the next player scuffs it wide.
=No assist.
To get an assist, another player has to "assist" you by scoring.

Assist, load of cobblers, it’s just a pass for Pete’s sake.

 

[normskih]

Does xG account for having donkeys in your side? Does it take into account the ability of players?

If you have some donkey who gets about 6 goals a season, then regardless of your "xG" in relation to how the game is playing out, your xG has to be lower if you've got a striker who can't hit a cows arse with a banjo nearly every week and your chances are falling to him.

Is xG mostly based on chances created? What if you have a few players in your side that can create chances out of nothing compared to mediocre players? Does xG account for that before the game even starts?

That's why I don't really get this xG stuff. If it doesn't factor in those things, then it's really missing a lot of nuances that make football what it is.

xG, I haven’t a clue what the hell, commentators talk about when they say this, I don’t want to know, all I want to know it who’s playing, who scored and are we winning.

 

[mscenterh750]

In my day it went a little something like this……

1. Goalie
2. Right back
3. Left back
4. Center half
5. Center half
6. Midfielder
7. Right winger
8. Midfielder
9. Striker
10. Striker
11. Left winger

12. Sub

Piss easy and none of this fucking bullshit we have to listen to or read nowadays. The games fucking gone.

 

[normskih]

In my day it went a little something like this……

1. Goalie
2. Right back
3. Left back
4. Center half
5. Center half
6. Midfielder
7. Right winger
8. Midfielder
9. Striker
10. Striker
11. Left winger

12. Sub

Piss easy and none of this fucking bullshit we have to listen to or read nowadays. The games fucking gone.

I’ll go with that except for the American spelling of centre;)

 

[Dave Ewing's Back 'eader]

"Your Mo Salahs, your Harry Kanes..."
Twattty, there's hardly loads of them!

Jeez, one of each is more than I can bear.

 

[Fiftyyearsandcounting]

In my day it went a little something like this……

1. Goalie
2. Right back
3. Left back
4. Center half
5. Center half
6. Midfielder
7. Right winger
8. Midfielder
9. Striker
10. Striker
11. Left winger

12. Sub

Piss easy and none of this fucking bullshit we have to listen to or read nowadays. The games fucking gone.

Going back, even earlier, to my prime years -Late 50s & 60s, the line up was even easier:
1 GK
2 R.BACK- 3 L.BACK
4 R.HALF -5 C.HALF-6 L.HALF
7 O.RIGHT-8 I.RIGHT-9 C.FORWARD-10 I.LEFT-11 O.LEFT

 

[AliBobbyJ]

Going back, even earlier, to my prime years -Late 50s & 60s, the line up was even easier:
1 GK
2 R.BACK- 3 L.BACK
4 R.HALF -5 C.HALF-6 L.HALF
7 O.RIGHT-8 I.RIGHT-9 C.FORWARD-10 I.LEFT-11 O.LEFT

My French teacher taught us to know the order in which pronouns are used by recalling the traditional 5-3-2 plus goalkeeper line-up, thus:
me te se nous vous
le la les
lui leur
y.
(No room for "en" in this scheme as substitutes weren't invented yet in the 1960s. Guess "en" could have been the manager.)

 

[Pell]

"He's got to stay concentrated."

 

[Ohrodneyrodney]

Assist, load of cobblers, it’s just a pass for Pete’s sake.

Used to be a 'set up' many years ago, was never counted as a stat though.

 

[Barcon]

Used to be a 'set up' many years ago, was never counted as a stat though.

I used to laugh at it being used over here in hockey. Now it's a thing.

 

[itsnevereasy]

Playing it in the channels.. fuck off! It’s the space between the defenders.

 

[roach3]

I suspect he was more successful at his job in football than you have been, which kind of proves the point.

Totally inept manager looked at stats to give him an edge and maximised his potential.

the money jabba has made pretending to be a manager is astonishing

 

[Alan Harper's Tash]

the money jabba has made pretending to be a manager is astonishing

Not many managers would have kept Bolton in and around the top 6 for as long as he did.

He was ahead of the curve on sports science and stats.

Others caught up and overtook him as his tactics were basic at best.