New lease arrangement for COMS

[Citizen Green]

I don't see the point in an expansion...we can't even fill the ground at the moment...what's the point in extending and having thousands of empty seats?
If we were to go on and win the premiership and the chumps league then have loads trying to get tickets fair enough...but Ifor one would rather have a full stadium every week rather than be rattling in one with all the empties.

We've been filling the ground on a regular basis since August 2009

 

[Deleted member 14625]

I don't see the point in an expansion...we can't even fill the ground at the moment...what's the point in extending and having thousands of empty seats?
If we were to go on and win the premiership and the chumps league then have loads trying to get tickets fair enough...but Ifor one would rather have a full stadium every week rather than be rattling in one with all the empties.

We do fill our stadium at times, a fair few games are a complete sell out. Which means that our stadium isn't big enough for certain games as we probably would have sold a lot more tickets if the stadium was bigger!

Who gives a monkeys if we are under capacity for games against Blackburn or Wigan if we can fill 65000 for 12 other games?

Barcelona have one of the biggest stadium in the world, are arguably the best team in the world and have the two best players in the world (Iniesta and Messi); but they average only a few people over 78000. Which means for most games El Camp Nou is only 2/3 - 3/4 full. Do you ever hear anything negative about that?

 

[Skashion]

The Corporate pipe-dream again. The only empry seats at he Chelsea game were in the Corporate areas. You only get these people when you're in the Champions League and winning trophies, and even then the seats just get passed on to clients as "commission" or go unused. That happens for Utd games all the time at my workplace.

this will be the a cash cow for the future.

I also couldn't give a shit who they're going to, or if they're empty, as long as they keep prices down in the peasant seats but if we're taking this financial argument seriously then corporate and hospitality has to be considered because there is a massive gulf between where we are now and where the clubs earning serious match day revenue are in that regard.

-- Sat Oct 02, 2010 1:23 pm --

Take Wigan for example. I don't normally buy any refreshements but having spent only £25 for my ticket i bought myself two beers and two pies totalling £10, so they got £35 off me. As daft as it sounds, had the ticket been £35 I might not have gone.

I'm not absolutely 100% sure of this but I think all revenue generated from food and drink inside the stadium doesn't go to the club. I think it was contracted out during the Thaksin era for ten years.

 

[ChesterRdBlue]

Why don't we just buy it from the council? What are the advantages of paying the lease annualy rather than just buying it out right?

I read that it cost £90million to build and we have already paid £12.5million so another 25 years at £3million and we have covered the cost, maybe that is the answer to my question, ride the next few years out and see what happens.

 

[CITY FOR LIFE]

I don't see the point in an expansion...we can't even fill the ground at the moment...what's the point in extending and having thousands of empty seats?
If we were to go on and win the premiership and the chumps league then have loads trying to get tickets fair enough...but Ifor one would rather have a full stadium every week rather than be rattling in one with all the empties.

We do fill our stadium at times, a fair few games are a complete sell out. Which means that our stadium isn't big enough for certain games as we probably would have sold a lot more tickets if the stadium was bigger!

Who gives a monkeys if we are under capacity for games against Blackburn or Wigan if we can fill 65000 for 12 other games?

Barcelona have one of the biggest stadium in the world, are arguably the best team in the world and have the two best players in the world (Iniesta and Messi); but they average only a few people over 78000. Which means for most games El Camp Nou is only 2/3 - 3/4 full. Do you ever hear anything negative about that?

Aggree with yuor comments, every ground now has empty seats, ok it may not be many at the likes of Highbury and Spurs and Utd but there are tickets to be had for all games, even Utd gates have fallan by a few hundred the last 2 seasons. I don't mind lower gates v the teams you have said, thats when we can give cheap tickets away to clubs and schools etc. But yes 12 of the games we would fill 55/60k I think. I always go back to the Semi at home last season and tickets still on sale 1 week before so lets not get to carried away with 70k +

 

[fbloke]

Why don't we just buy it from the council? What are the advantages of paying the lease annualy rather than just buying it out right?

I read that it cost £90million to build and we have already paid £12.5million so another 25 years at £3million and we have covered the cost, maybe that is the answer to my question, ride the next few years out and see what happens.

As much as we may or may not want to buy COMS it isn't our decision to make, the partners that paid for it to be built have strict rules of operation to abide by.

 

[Mikeegrini]

interesting bit in yesterdays financial report was that season tickets were capped at 35k and there is now a waiting list. If this is the case the board must see the potential for expansion plus cheaper season cards.

If there is a waiting list why would they produce a cheaper ST ffs?

If fans want to see us compete on the biggest stage, challenging for honours, the fact is the fans hard earned has to contribute towards that as INCOME that is partially what the ''rules'' from EUEFA insist upon. We as a club might have all the cash in the world but the FFPR rules are set to advantage the current 'big' sides.

For the guy who thinks a seat at £25 plus £10 for pies and beer is equivalent income as a seat at £35 you forget to cost in the cost price of the products and cost of staff to sell them plus energy to warm/cool the product

 

[marco]

i apreciate the cost would be a lot of money 'millions' to extend coms,but the design of the ground does allow structual changes to increase capacity,
gate receipts for a season at coms dosnt exceed 35 million and thats about half the cost of a top player these days so i dont think gate income is all that important to our owners,the important income is from champions lge,tv deals,sponsorships and other promotions,the owners not only want a top world team but a flagship state of the art stadium and to fill it affordable football has to follow

 

[ChesterRdBlue]

Also under the new Uefa proposals will the lease payment count towards our outgoings or will it be part of the development costs?

 

[JULES]

I don't see the point in an expansion...we can't even fill the ground at the moment...what's the point in extending and having thousands of empty seats?
If we were to go on and win the premiership and the chumps league then have loads trying to get tickets fair enough...but Ifor one would rather have a full stadium every week rather than be rattling in one with all the empties.

totally dissagree