Newcastle United (A) - Post-Match Thread

[manclad]

My first admiration for Man City was either that bugger Allison who was THEE character in football at the time 78,79? And don hutchison 1981 how unlucky was that man, I’m laughing typing this as it was so absurd that goal
Should of won the replay anarl on the Thursday Steve mckenzie best goal I’ve seen in a cup final, Ricky villa my arse !

It was Tommy Hutchison who scored for both teams in the 1981Cup Final !!

 

[bluesteel]

They won't be able, we're far to good, we already have a 3 point gap, I can't see anyone closing that, only it slowly widening.

I really think getting knocked out of the City cup by West Ham is going to be a blessing

 

[LucahArchie10]

I think if we can win all our games up to Arsenal, we might be clear of Liverpool too.

Chelsea and Liverpool both play each other on Jan 2.

We absolutely need to keep winning throughout Xmas.

Do you see us playing Boxing Day & then scraping the 28th-29th games?

So basically 5 or 6 day rest up before New Year's fixtures on 1st-2nd?
Also the League Cup fixtures this week will be moved into January?

FA cup games do they already go into pens & do we really need to mix with lower Div teams surely City will pay for testing of Swindon no chance they send strong team with covid spreading didn't we do something like that last year in 1 of the cups?
Busy day for the Prem today some shocking decisions from officials AGAIN but they have 1 bite at this fixture arrangement + will the goverment now announce no fans in this Jan fixtures?

Also if the scrap late December fixtures then it could kill Liverpool knowing Salah, Mane & Kieta all play against Leeds then that will possibly be there last games till start of Feb

Prem, League & FA cups, AFCON Loads of sorting to do but most important players welfare

 

[Themoneysnogood]

It was Tommy Hutchison who scored for both teams in the 1981Cup Final !!

!!! Tommy Hutchison man ! Sorry manclad the ale and gin had the better of me last night pal , seem to remember the match ball being made on Jim,ll fix it and only lasting about 20 minutes into the match? Obviously these were the days before 20 balls were used per match Christ I can’t remember yesterday but I remember that from 40 FORTY! Years ago

 

[mcfcantc]

Never a penalty.

 

[Fordyboy46]

50/50 on the non penalty. Ederson and Cancelo plus Fraser going for the ball, Cancelo the quickest of the lot clears up, but Ederson comes out for the ball and his momentum takes Fraser out, Ederson can't do much else really. On the flip side, you could easily see it being awarded as well, some might say clumsy from Ederson.
Suppose the narrative is lucky lucky City again, always is when we win

 

[Fordyboy46]

Looked on one of the Newcastle forums and they won't give Cancelo any credit for his wonder strike. One even called him an attacker, others saying their defenders made it easy for him. They failed to see he's a full back scoring a goal like that, bitterness shows no end of stopping towards us no matter who we play

 

[Scaring Europe to Death]

I didn't think it was a penalty, mainly because City had the ball. However, I was also at Maine Road when Eric Nixon gifted Crystal Palace a stupid penalty despite having the ball in his hands, so maybe it's me who doesn't understand the rules

As for the game, the Zinchenko-Sterling combination was the main reason why our possession wasn't as crisp as usual with both players guilty of needlessly losing the ball from sloppy mistimed passes. Ederson, De Bruyne, and Mahrez were all guilty of a dopey 10 minutes and this led to Newcastle getting into decent positions which they never really exploited

No harm done though and some great goals.to boost the goal difference.

 

[yerwot?]

The ref had a clear view of the forward initiating the contact by changing direction towards the keeper. The disdainful way the ref responded to the theatrical begging for a pen spoke volumes. A yellow card for diving should have been given. Conning the ref is not new, the scale of it is though.
It invariably goes unpunished, and until this changes, will only get worse...

 

[Vic]

That penalty decision - if that happened in another part of the pitch, say mid-field, would the ref have blown for a foul and free kick ? No, because Cancelo had won the ball, was in total control of the ball, and play had transitioned to the next phase. Once the ball had gone out of play he might have gone back and booked the player for his challenge but he would have let play go on. It was effectively an 'off the ball' incident.

That's playing advantage, and refs don't play advantage if it's going to be a penalty, unless the player fouled is going to score anyway.

Not a penalty for me. VAR didn't overturn because it wasn't a clear and obvious error. Generally speaking, when the ref awards a penalty, he/she has to consider how close they are to the goal, how many defenders are there, direction of the play and, most importantly, the likelihood of keeping or gaining control of the ball. In any of those respects, Fraser wouldn't get the nod. Yes, Ederson took him out. But Fraser wasn't getting the ball, Cancelo had control. No penalty in my opinion.

What is really absurd is the Liverpool boards raging that had the penalty been given - it would have changed the match. Eh - no. It wouldn't have.

People really do need to look at the rules. Those are the criteria for whether it's denying a goalscoring opportunity, not for a foul.

If "Ederson took him out" (i.e. committed a foul, even accidentally) that would be a penalty.