Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

[SilverFox2]

So what you are suggesting we should develop a sense of entitlement and not welcome further competition because when it all goes tits up we too can feel a bitter resentment similar to the one that Spurs fans feel?

Frankly I don't think our owner has worries about fair competition. His business plan fought and won against FFP both on and off the field.

My point is that investment alone is not a guarantee of business success in any sector, our owner has shown the need for a management team that can be self sustaining quickly as well as getting football right.

He is an expert in investment with many fingers in many pies most of which have serious competition.
The efforts to exclude him from PL were mainly because they feared his business acumen knowing his money would be spent wisely and effectively.

How right they were.

 

[KS55]

Yet it took City just 4 years after the buy out to win the Premier league despite only being able to sign mercenaries. No wonder you're shitting your self over Newcastle. You'll need a European Conference Two for you lot to see European competition soon. Going to be so funny when Sir Harry of Hotspur jumps ship for the Geordie revolution

And for half the price we offered.
The "crafty negotiator" cemented his reputation as being untrustworthy.
Five or six managers turned him down after Poch left. I think he gave them a gentleman's promise on the transfer budget!

 

[Protein Junkie]

Really..?

When Pep decides to call it a day, we could purchase a monkey from Chester zoo, give it a haircut, all the tea it could drink as payment, install it as first team manager and it'll still be nailed on to win a trophy before spurs..!

Of all the far fetched posts on here this is the worst.
Everyone knows the Glazers will gazump us for the Monkey.
Keep it real ffs :-)

 

[Colin Bells Boots]

Of all the far fetched posts on here this is the worst.
Everyone knows the Glazers will gazump us for the Monkey.
Keep it real ffs :-)

Thought OGS was their monkey ?

Edit - insult to monkeys - my apologies .

 

[Citizen Green]

It is your last para which shows that you do not really understand what has been going on. It is not just about keeping manyoo down but about all the US based red shirts, that is MUFC, LFC, ARSENAL FC. Oh, and to a lesser extent certain others such as, er, Spurs.
The three red shirts have plotted against us non stop ever since it became clear that we threatened their cosy little top three club.

1.The American sports model is based on the owners making a handy profit from a league which does not have relegation so they are safe from the phenomenon of poor performance on the field leading to poor financial performance or even disaster.
2. A permanent place in the top four is a permanent place in the Champs league with increased revenues from fans, sponsors, TV, and prize money. Last season City earned £80m in prize money from the CL alone.
3. In order to preserve this, the American red shirts took part in the disgraceful blackmail of UEFA. UEFA proposed FPP partly to stop us but crucially the proposals included limits on debt. G14 refused to accept this and said they would leave the CL and set up their own comp. UEFA caved in and FFP was based on income alone. Handy for man u and Arsenal with huge debts on their books. No problem, however, for City as our then owner had a plan to spend upfront, establish the club as in a higher echelon, and then run the club on a sustainable debt free basis, having swopped the debt to him for equity. The equity swop enabled Mansour to reverse City into the ownership of ADUG, and thence into CFG .
This is exactly what happened. Panic from the red shirts. Lots of cosy lunches plotting how they would fend off CITY.
By coincidence, or design there then occurred the Spiegel email leaks. The red shirts built a whole case on this saying our accounts were a sham, and the true source of our income was the Emirate of Abu Dhabi, directly or thru fake sponsorships. They nobbled certain members of Uefa and set about a major campaign to get other PL clubs, the English press and some European clubs onside. This all but succeeded, City were found guilty of breaking the regulations, fined a fortune and chucked out of the Champs league. Naturally we appealed. Liverpool immediately organised a letter to UEFA saying we should be banned before the appeal was heard. NINE PL clubs, including Spurs, signed this letter. Nine clubs who don't believe in due process.
CAS heard the case and concluded:
1. There was NO EVIDENCE that we broke regulations. They stated this no less than 12 times in their judgement.
2. The idea that our audited accounts were not a true and fair record was just not credible.
3,The emails, cobbled together from thousands and made to look as though they were connected were dismissed as having no probitive value.
4. And in the interim case, CAS said that City could not possibly get a fair hearing from the investigatory chamber while M. Leterme was in the chair. (Wonder why they said that?!)

Despite the CAS final judgement, the press and the red shirts continue to repeat the lies. Only this week Klopp repeated that we were a state owned club. The press continue to belittle Pep's achievements "well anyone with unlimited resources could do that" Psst...We obey FFP. The Grauniad have now suggested that we bribed CAS and got off on a technicality.
Liverpool have now tried the PL regs route. This will fail.
I have left out the army of internet bots put into the field by the red shirts to spread their poison, the fact that Liverpool hacked our systems (allegedly!!), the Liverpool and Manu supporting writers who tweet anti City, anti Arab slogans weekly, the strange alliance of Qatr and a fake Indian media organization, and much more).
So, @BobbyBoy, it is quite understandable that we welcome anything that discumknockerates the red shirts and their gutless allies.

Bravo

 

[Dubai Blue]

Does nobody else think its weird that a Man City forum is in support of this? City are owned by a group of billionaire's from all corners of the globe. From the point of view of CFG there is no relationship with Saudi Arabia or Newcastle that I'm aware of, there isn't a reason to get behind this.

As City fans you will ultimately end up paying for it at the gate, Newcastle will raise the stakes in terms of wages which will filter through every club. By the time they get competitive you will be in a post Pep era and will just as vulnerable to them as any other club.

As a club you now have to think and vote with geo political impacts in mind, every vote could have consequences, does anyone think they will accept "its privately owned, we can't do anything about it" when they want City to side with them? Your PR has taken an instant hit as you are automatically lumped in with them and finally the trophies you would have won in the next 10 years has probably been halved.

I'm struggling to think of any benefits other than keeping Utd down which is a bit a small time in all honesty.

I'm late to the party here but as a Spurs fan it's almost like you're suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. The clubs trying to keep you (and everyone else) in your place aren't the likes of City and Newcastle, it's the American owners. They're not your friends and they're certainly not ours.

And the reason City abstained from that vote is because what the other clubs are proposing is quite clearly illegal. It's called having principles.

 

[Deleted member 77198]

I'm a long term browser on here, I was aware of most of that but it doesn't change my point, City as a club and you as fans will eventually suffer here. Your club is now fully self sustainable but you need success to maintain current levels. You get Pep's replacement wrong and it won't take much for you to be where Spurs are now.

City earn £550-600m a season. We are at the level of United and Liverpool for income now and are better run than both.

We are the only club never to finish outside the Top4 in the last decade and didn’t In the 6 years before Pep came, where we finished 4th once, 3rd once, 2nd twice and 1st twice. I don’t see how we all of a sudden become a club that finishes in the Top4 now and again when Pep leaves. Everything in our business is geared up for that not to happen.

 

[Dubai Blue]

City earn £550-600m a season. We are at the level of United and Liverpool for income now and are better run than both.

We are the only club never to finish outside the Top4 in the last decade and didn’t In the 6 years before Pep came, where we finished 4th once, 3rd once, 2nd twice and 1st twice. I don’t see how we all of a sudden become a club that finishes in the Top4 now and again when Pep leaves. Everything in our business is geared up for that not to happen.

And if we don't finish in the top 4, so what? It's down to us to sort it out, not cry about it. We should all welcome additional competition whether it's at our expense or not.

 

[Kamaro011]

And if we don't finish in the top 4, so what? It's down to us to sort it out, not cry about it. We should all welcome additional competition whether it's at our expense or not.

I think more competition is encouraging to keep up our Clubs in toe and not to be complacent.

 

[mat]

If only there was another Arabic owner sniffing around an Aston villa type club.

It seems like the old guard are extremely rattled. Another one might tip the fuckers over the edge.