Newcastle United Thread - 2021/22

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Bit of a strange one this really. I've got Geordie family so I'm pleased they have got rid of Ashley, but getting Saudi money? I do wonder just who would fail a fit and proper persons test at the FA.

I think they will face the same problems we did - the best managers and players are not motivated by money. That's the tricky one. Agents are motivated by money and they'll no doubt have every player in Europe being offered to them. However, they can bid £900m for Mbappe and pay him £50m a week, but he won't go there. We found this out trying to land Kaka and Messi in the early days. Players like KdB, Dias etc want to win trophies and Ballon Dors, not big bank balances. Kane is a great example of a filthy rich player who could win the Ballon Dor but won't ever win a trophy whilst he's at a duff club.

Of course, what you need to do is find the ones who want money (Robinho, Bridge, Adebayor) and use them as stepping stones to get the class acts. But you also need to bring in the ones who want to be the best they possibly can be (Kompany, Zabaleta, Yaya, David Silva, Aguero) and the really hard part is picking between the two. I bet Adebayor was sensational at training for the first month, but would be checking his online banking every day.

If I was the owners, I'd be very concerned about going down this season. They need to keep Bruce in this season just to steady the ship. They have to stay up, come what may. Then they can look at bringing in someone decent. However, the "money axe" will mean that all the players there won't be there next season. That could kill morale and if they go down, it's a hard division to get out of - particularly with a lot of money, new manager and new players.

Money isn't easily spent on improving teams. I honestly think the money at City was important, but the best "signing" we made was Khaldoon. The guy is a class act. He's barely put a foot wrong and we're the textbook on how to run a club. He was cut from the same cloth as Bernstein - the right guys at the right time.
 
that E is going to stand for English rather than European at this rate. why should english clubs leave that!
Clubs that were English playing home games across the world is the danger, and UAE, USA and SA taking the the game away from us.
 
Hughes didn't do that bad given we weren't that attractive a club at the time. Zabba, Vinny, Kolo, Lescott, NDJ, Tevez, Adebayor to name a few.
Hughes built a decent side with the help of Brian Marwood and we won some big games and played some exciting stuff under him, mainly against Arsenal.

He was never going to be the man to take that next step though.
 
Hughes built a decent side with the help of Brian Marwood and we won some big games and played some exciting stuff under him, mainly against Arsenal.

He was never going to be the man to take that next step though.
no, but if the Saudis are sensible and have say, been in discussions with their UAE friends, they would adopt a similar strategy. Trying to bring in a fancy manager now will send them down.
 
Bit of a strange one this really. I've got Geordie family so I'm pleased they have got rid of Ashley, but getting Saudi money? I do wonder just who would fail a fit and proper persons test at the FA.

I think they will face the same problems we did - the best managers and players are not motivated by money. That's the tricky one. Agents are motivated by money and they'll no doubt have every player in Europe being offered to them. However, they can bid £900m for Mbappe and pay him £50m a week, but he won't go there. We found this out trying to land Kaka and Messi in the early days. Players like KdB, Dias etc want to win trophies and Ballon Dors, not big bank balances. Kane is a great example of a filthy rich player who could win the Ballon Dor but won't ever win a trophy whilst he's at a duff club.

Of course, what you need to do is find the ones who want money (Robinho, Bridge, Adebayor) and use them as stepping stones to get the class acts. But you also need to bring in the ones who want to be the best they possibly can be (Kompany, Zabaleta, Yaya, David Silva, Aguero) and the really hard part is picking between the two. I bet Adebayor was sensational at training for the first month, but would be checking his online banking every day.

If I was the owners, I'd be very concerned about going down this season. They need to keep Bruce in this season just to steady the ship. They have to stay up, come what may. Then they can look at bringing in someone decent. However, the "money axe" will mean that all the players there won't be there next season. That could kill morale and if they go down, it's a hard division to get out of - particularly with a lot of money, new manager and new players.

Money isn't easily spent on improving teams. I honestly think the money at City was important, but the best "signing" we made was Khaldoon. The guy is a class act. He's barely put a foot wrong and we're the textbook on how to run a club. He was cut from the same cloth as Bernstein - the right guys at the right time.
Agree with most of this but they have to axe Bruce asap. I give him a week. They can't afford to get relegated and need someone who can attract players. They will bring in a big-hitter.
 
He was a total bag of shit. An exploding clown car of a rmanagerial regime at City.
I think that's way OTT. Hughes wasn't the guy to lead us to the title - no surprise there - but he left the club in a far better place than when he found it. He created the platform for Mancini to come in and push us up to a level we'd never seen before.

He took us to 6th and brought in De Jong, Bellamy, brought SWP back, Given, Zabaleta, Vinnie, Tevez, Lescott and Barry. Of those Zaba, Vinnie and Tevez are LEGENDS and the others helped us to win our first FA Cup and PL title in decades.

I can think of plenty of managers we've had who we're really a "total bad of shit", but Hughes is absolutely not one of them. Have you forgotten Ball, Clark, Neal etc?
 
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